Mike, I am so moved by today's Rumble, and you have fired me up to go out there and do something. Thank you for being so amazing.
But, I need to argue with you on one point: in this country, we have never, ever, welcomed immigrants with open arms. Yes, we needed their labor, but whoever was the newest wave of immigrant took a lot of abuse, discrimination, unnecessary hardship until the majority finally deigned to absorb them. Like you, I'm of Irish descent, and the Irish took a lot of shit until they suddenly became white and acceptable. Every new group of immigrants put up with unspeakable crap.
And, you urging people to accept Catholics is going to get all those Protestants in a snit. Catholics (also my heritage) aren't popular with the powers that be. Catholics aren't real Christians, says the dominant group.
Thank God that group is on the way out, and thank you for pointing out the statistics to prove that.
Thank you for giving me, and so many others, hope to go on. I share your despair and appreciate that there is someone (you) who rises above it.
It all goes back to the Reformation. Catholics and Protestants fought each other in wars that decimated Europe for a century, and that's why we have a separation of church and state. Those who cannot remember the past....
Evangelicals are no friend of the Catholics these days. It is just a matter of time before all Catholics leave the GOP, which if they did, would end the GOP. Catholics are split 50/50 between the two parties. They represent a full 10 percent of the Republican Party. People like MTG say Catholics are satanic. This is the white nationalism party. Catholics are just used for their anti abortion vote.
We do have to stop this catastrophe Biden is supporting. I do think the adult thing to do is to tell the Democratic Party we need a new candidate...if we think we can win with an incumbent who is embracing the outright slaughter of a defenseless population because that’s somehow better than the lunatic??? Why? Because it’s happening to some people “over there?” What moral high ground are we standing on now??? We’re kidding ourselves!
The Middle East is a quagmire. What would you do if you were Israel? Two close-minded theocracies are not worth letting America become a dictatorship. Putin would like us to have a dictatorship. And it sounds like you would too? The crazy cat lady can get kicked out of her apartment for too many cats and not only does she lose her home but so do the cats! It would be insane of us to follow in that path!
There’s no better person than Norman Finkelstein at patiently but directly explaining how we got here and what’s in the best interests of all.
And the quickest way to authoritarian rule is to allow party leadership in any party to dictate to us who their endorsed candidate is when neither are acceptable choices. You can argue that polls are skewed to garner a specific type of answer but when a genocide before our very eyes is playing out in real time, don’t you think a significant number of people are reaching the same conclusion Josh Paul did? And why do you think the IDF is killing journalists, medical personnel, aid workers, hell, their own escaped hostages? Is there truly no bottom/no-go limit? How is this democracy?
The conventional wisdom arguments are a solid part of the reason we’re here now. We need to push back now while there is time. And pay attention to what’s happening elsewhere in the world and down ballot.
But hey it’s a happy new year for the “defense” industry.
Push back by letting a far right fascist get elected? I was hoping we could have a conversation in depth. At least with Biden we don't have to worry about our social spending money going to the rich people unless he chooses to give it to them. Trump gave several trillion dollars every 10 years to them with his trickle down theory. Most Americans have never gone hungry day in their life thanks to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Most Americans have no idea what people born to capitalist dictatorships have gone through to reach our borders. And the right wants to join them by getting rid of the minimum wage and social security.
Aside from the record breaking $886B military budget Biden signed (which btw the pentagon hasn’t ever passed an audit in all the years they’ve been conducted - can’t actually account for more than 40% of the money), Biden just gave $14.5B of taxpayer funds to his friends in “defense” industry and his lover boy, BN. And he’s aligning his border policies with the GOP to get the aid he wants for Ukraine and Israel. And that’s only 2 examples.
Every time the Repugs give tax breaks to the wealthiest corps and individuals, the Dems never walk it back once they take office again. Why is that? 🤔
I remember when you started your podcast to dedicate the mission not to elect insanity. Thank you, your success has saved from much craziness. American people owe you allot, thank you. I know this hard to ask again, but 2024 may be our last meaningful election. I know this might sound like a broken record, but 2024 will be the saving of our democracy or turning it over to the crazy dictator. You will not be allowed to make movies or continue your podcast. Our rights will be a distant memory. So I peg you to use all your creative talents to defeat this evil. Please our future depends on all of are efforts to defeat the enemy of the people.
I am posting an email sent to Michael a month ago. With the introduction to the New Year episode of Rumble and the obvious implication of "war on (not "in") Gaza, I see that you have hardened your position and either not understood or ignored what I wrote. So, I am copying it here in the hope that you will think about the points that I and many others have made concerning the factual history of the Middle East instead of believing the misinformation and outright lies flooding social media.
Dear Michael,
I wrote to you several weeks ago after the "War No More" part 1 podcast, explaining why I believe your position is wrong. I wasn't going to listen to Part 2 but decided to hear what you and the pro-Palestinian protestors had to say. So, I took a long walk and listened to it. I was sad to hear both your comments and those of people in the crowd because there is so much misunderstanding of the history of Palestine and Israel. I am not a supporter of Netanyahu and believe that he will be swept out of office in the next election. I oppose the continuing building of settlements on the West Bank and condemn Netanyahu's revenge campaign that has resulted in excessive aerial bombardment, destruction, and deaths of innocent people in Gaza. But you go too far in implying that most Israelis are supportive of Netanyahu's policies. And then you veer into the wickedness of slavery in the American South as if Israelis are enslaving Palestinians. Otherwise, why bring it up in this podcast?
When I hear over and over that Israel has occupied Gaza for 75 or 100 years and the term "genocide" used to describe what Israel is doing, I shudder. Genocide was what white European Americans did to Native Americans and what Hitler and the Nazis did to European Jews. My parents and grandparents were Holocaust survivors and many of our relatives were murdered in the Shoah. Some of my family found refuge in Palestine and were pioneers in Kibbutzim a decade before Israel became independent. To suggest that the descendants of these Jews are now committing genocide is both factually wrong and morally insulting.
Israel did not occupy Gaza after the original two-state plan, which Israel accepted at its birth, was rejected by all the Arab countries. It was Egypt that stepped in and had authority over Gaza. Israel withdrew completely from Gaza in 2005. Then the Palestinian people voted for Hamas to govern them, with horrible consequences. Hamas has stolen much of the outside aid coming into Gaza, building their elaborate tunnel system and rockets rather than for humanitarian needs. The people have been used as human shields as terrorist facilities have been constructed under hospitals, schools, and homes. But who gets blamed for all the ills of the Palestinian people? Israel.
We are living at a time when anti-Semitism is running rampant in the U.S. and many parts of the world. Listen to the speech that Senator Schumer gave on the Senate floor about how American Jews feel right now. And read Noa Tishby's book, Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth. You will learn a lot, including how many times since 1948 Israel has agreed to give up territory and accept a state of Palestine, only to have Palestinian leaders reject a two-state solution. And the reason they have rejected it in the past - and will in the future - is that they do not accept the very existence of Israel. "From the River to the Sea" is a call for Israel to be wiped off the map and the extermination of nine million Israeli Jews. A black female interviewee at the pro-Palestinian rally stated that she "would turn this country over to Republicans before she would vote for Joe Biden." Think about that statement, Mike, and how utterly ignorant of what a Trump presidency - make that, a Trump "dictatorship" - would mean to people of color.
I got a nice, short note from you in reply to my email of September 20. I did not hear back about my criticisms of Part 1 of "'War No More," and probably won't get a response to this email. Please prove me wrong and show that you can be impartial on this issue.
One last thing. You state that the pro-Palestinian rally of about 3,000 people in Brooklyn was the largest of its kind. But you don't even mention the pro-Israel/free the hostages rally on the Mall in Washington which was estimated at 300,000. Did any of your team go to that rally and interview Jews and others who support Israel and demand the release of hostages?
I think Micheal just doesn't get it on this issue. He does not understand that when you live next to people who want to kill you, and that when those people come to kill you, you have no choice but to wipe them out because if you do not, they will come back and they will kill more of your people. People. That is the position that is real has been in since 1948.
So heartening to hear from the guy that predicted in front of all America that Trump would win in 2016 that Trump will not be winning in 2024. I trust your instincts and feel more peace tonight as I prepare for bed on this first day of the New Year. I personally believe you in your wisdom express what I feel about the world better than anyone else. May God bless, Allah bless, Hashem bless us all - far into the future.
Today jan 1st 2024 I join you in committing my energy to the higher good of all by ending senseless gun violence, ending the killing of children home & abroad,
I haven’t watched Planet of the Humans yet, but thanks you for saying out loud what I have been saying (my voice is small) all along. The answer is simple. Stop buying into Fear Of Missing Out. Stop unconscious consumption and exploitation.
If a corporation embraces ‘green energy’ the alarm bells should be ringing.
If anyone can get through to the White House and President Biden, can’t you Michael? I don’t know if he reads his letters from us, I know President Obama made a point of doing so.
Very moving podcast. On climate change, I'd love to hear more solutions. No one in the US really believes in Reduce, Recycle, Reuse except young people. My kids buy a lot of their goods at resale, eat lower on the food chain, recycle, compost. That's a culture change underway.
On gun violence, laws can only be applied after the fact. We need culture change to put an end to gun culture and the culture of violence the we embrace. Part of this is tied up in book banning and that the notion of teaching our history of conquest, enslavement, imperialism, and genocide will make our children feel guilty about our past. Maybe we can learn from the past to shape our present and future.
On Israel, two things are true at the same time: Hamas' attack was barbaric and the loss of Jewish life and prisoner taking is horrific and I mourn the losses of our Jewish brothers and sisters with you.
Israel's response is barbaric. It killed some of its own people while killing Hamas invaders. It continues its war of retribution and has killed thousands of women, children, elderly and disabled. It has killed the prisoners that Hamas took to Gaza by sniper fire, tunnel flooding, and indiscriminate bombing and shelling. Like you, I mourn for the loss of our Palestinian brothers and sisters too.
I have written our representatives in congress and President Biden numerous times to demand a cease fire and an end to funding of Israel's military..
I deplore the rise in antisemitic and anti-Palestininian violence and rhetoric. I equally abhor using antisemitism as a cudgel to supress free speech under the onslaught of Israeli propaganda.
Finally, Donald Trump must be kept off the ballot. It is definitely pro-democracy to enforce the Constitution. It sets the worst possible precedent to present voters with unqualified candidates.
Rumble with Michael Moore, Best Episode thus far, Happy New Year! But Mr. Michael Moore, I beg of you to refrain from using the term "Carpet Bombing" and inflammatory language a step beyond Genocidal language; it not a matter of being first or last, but stepping up as a Veteran Peacekeeper on a Global Scale placed in Genocidal Regions of the World for the Nineties through to post-9/11 World: I am equally appalled, but the perceived information filters past Pro-Hamas channels. The missiles fly in Israel daily, civilians are targeted daily by every Iranian Government backed group, and could fill your ears with actual informed opinion, but the point you're making is sound Mr. Michael Moore yet it is the extreme language the message is lost. I take my leave with an absolute appreciation for Mr. Michael Moore and his Fans', I am a big Fan, just take the time to be properly informed.
Happy New Year Michael! I also believe that the vast majority of Americans are not maga trumpers...many rational repubs have left the party...so there are fewer of them. Biden does not inspire...but another round of trump will get rational people out to vote. They will hold their noses and vote for the only candidate who still believes in our democratic republic. The repubs who left are registering as independents...I saw a stat that 20% of the registered voters are now independent. So I am keeping my fingers crossed and have built my own list of what I will do to ensure that the ideals stated in our constitution continue beyond 2024.
Mike, I am so moved by today's Rumble, and you have fired me up to go out there and do something. Thank you for being so amazing.
But, I need to argue with you on one point: in this country, we have never, ever, welcomed immigrants with open arms. Yes, we needed their labor, but whoever was the newest wave of immigrant took a lot of abuse, discrimination, unnecessary hardship until the majority finally deigned to absorb them. Like you, I'm of Irish descent, and the Irish took a lot of shit until they suddenly became white and acceptable. Every new group of immigrants put up with unspeakable crap.
And, you urging people to accept Catholics is going to get all those Protestants in a snit. Catholics (also my heritage) aren't popular with the powers that be. Catholics aren't real Christians, says the dominant group.
Thank God that group is on the way out, and thank you for pointing out the statistics to prove that.
Thank you for giving me, and so many others, hope to go on. I share your despair and appreciate that there is someone (you) who rises above it.
Happy 2024.
Carol Brach
I have encountered so many people who call themselves Christian that classify Catholics as a separate religion. It’s truly amazing.
It all goes back to the Reformation. Catholics and Protestants fought each other in wars that decimated Europe for a century, and that's why we have a separation of church and state. Those who cannot remember the past....
Evangelicals are no friend of the Catholics these days. It is just a matter of time before all Catholics leave the GOP, which if they did, would end the GOP. Catholics are split 50/50 between the two parties. They represent a full 10 percent of the Republican Party. People like MTG say Catholics are satanic. This is the white nationalism party. Catholics are just used for their anti abortion vote.
Good point. Thanks.
Only the crazy Catholics that I know are crazed Trumpers because of the abortion issue.
Read some Noam Chomsky and how he said that evangelical fanaticism could lead to a fascist USA state.
I see an Evangelical and Catholic civil war in the future. That is why America needs a separation of church and state!
Europe spent a century doing just that. Do they just think it's 'Merica's turn or something?
Thank you Michael for your humanity and perspective. Happy New Year to all and may 2024 bring peace and comfort to a hurting world.
We do have to stop this catastrophe Biden is supporting. I do think the adult thing to do is to tell the Democratic Party we need a new candidate...if we think we can win with an incumbent who is embracing the outright slaughter of a defenseless population because that’s somehow better than the lunatic??? Why? Because it’s happening to some people “over there?” What moral high ground are we standing on now??? We’re kidding ourselves!
The Middle East is a quagmire. What would you do if you were Israel? Two close-minded theocracies are not worth letting America become a dictatorship. Putin would like us to have a dictatorship. And it sounds like you would too? The crazy cat lady can get kicked out of her apartment for too many cats and not only does she lose her home but so do the cats! It would be insane of us to follow in that path!
There’s no better person than Norman Finkelstein at patiently but directly explaining how we got here and what’s in the best interests of all.
And the quickest way to authoritarian rule is to allow party leadership in any party to dictate to us who their endorsed candidate is when neither are acceptable choices. You can argue that polls are skewed to garner a specific type of answer but when a genocide before our very eyes is playing out in real time, don’t you think a significant number of people are reaching the same conclusion Josh Paul did? And why do you think the IDF is killing journalists, medical personnel, aid workers, hell, their own escaped hostages? Is there truly no bottom/no-go limit? How is this democracy?
The conventional wisdom arguments are a solid part of the reason we’re here now. We need to push back now while there is time. And pay attention to what’s happening elsewhere in the world and down ballot.
But hey it’s a happy new year for the “defense” industry.
Push back by letting a far right fascist get elected? I was hoping we could have a conversation in depth. At least with Biden we don't have to worry about our social spending money going to the rich people unless he chooses to give it to them. Trump gave several trillion dollars every 10 years to them with his trickle down theory. Most Americans have never gone hungry day in their life thanks to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Most Americans have no idea what people born to capitalist dictatorships have gone through to reach our borders. And the right wants to join them by getting rid of the minimum wage and social security.
Aside from the record breaking $886B military budget Biden signed (which btw the pentagon hasn’t ever passed an audit in all the years they’ve been conducted - can’t actually account for more than 40% of the money), Biden just gave $14.5B of taxpayer funds to his friends in “defense” industry and his lover boy, BN. And he’s aligning his border policies with the GOP to get the aid he wants for Ukraine and Israel. And that’s only 2 examples.
Every time the Repugs give tax breaks to the wealthiest corps and individuals, the Dems never walk it back once they take office again. Why is that? 🤔
Nonsense! Putin loves you though.
I can think of a quicker way to authoritarian rule.
And yet can stop America from becoming a dictatorship without the help of Biden. The Democratic party needs to figure that out.
More nonsense!
Unless, of course, a dictator President decides to suspend the Constitution and Congress lets him get away with it.
Happy New Year.🎊🎆🎈 2023 was the year, I started to heal.
Ooh ooh! You just reminded me I have some Stout ! It is New Year’s Day. Soooo...
I would sure love to see a Happy year.
Best wishes to all.
And to Fuhrer Trumpf, a Rotten Heil.
I remember when you started your podcast to dedicate the mission not to elect insanity. Thank you, your success has saved from much craziness. American people owe you allot, thank you. I know this hard to ask again, but 2024 may be our last meaningful election. I know this might sound like a broken record, but 2024 will be the saving of our democracy or turning it over to the crazy dictator. You will not be allowed to make movies or continue your podcast. Our rights will be a distant memory. So I peg you to use all your creative talents to defeat this evil. Please our future depends on all of are efforts to defeat the enemy of the people.
I am posting an email sent to Michael a month ago. With the introduction to the New Year episode of Rumble and the obvious implication of "war on (not "in") Gaza, I see that you have hardened your position and either not understood or ignored what I wrote. So, I am copying it here in the hope that you will think about the points that I and many others have made concerning the factual history of the Middle East instead of believing the misinformation and outright lies flooding social media.
Dear Michael,
I wrote to you several weeks ago after the "War No More" part 1 podcast, explaining why I believe your position is wrong. I wasn't going to listen to Part 2 but decided to hear what you and the pro-Palestinian protestors had to say. So, I took a long walk and listened to it. I was sad to hear both your comments and those of people in the crowd because there is so much misunderstanding of the history of Palestine and Israel. I am not a supporter of Netanyahu and believe that he will be swept out of office in the next election. I oppose the continuing building of settlements on the West Bank and condemn Netanyahu's revenge campaign that has resulted in excessive aerial bombardment, destruction, and deaths of innocent people in Gaza. But you go too far in implying that most Israelis are supportive of Netanyahu's policies. And then you veer into the wickedness of slavery in the American South as if Israelis are enslaving Palestinians. Otherwise, why bring it up in this podcast?
When I hear over and over that Israel has occupied Gaza for 75 or 100 years and the term "genocide" used to describe what Israel is doing, I shudder. Genocide was what white European Americans did to Native Americans and what Hitler and the Nazis did to European Jews. My parents and grandparents were Holocaust survivors and many of our relatives were murdered in the Shoah. Some of my family found refuge in Palestine and were pioneers in Kibbutzim a decade before Israel became independent. To suggest that the descendants of these Jews are now committing genocide is both factually wrong and morally insulting.
Israel did not occupy Gaza after the original two-state plan, which Israel accepted at its birth, was rejected by all the Arab countries. It was Egypt that stepped in and had authority over Gaza. Israel withdrew completely from Gaza in 2005. Then the Palestinian people voted for Hamas to govern them, with horrible consequences. Hamas has stolen much of the outside aid coming into Gaza, building their elaborate tunnel system and rockets rather than for humanitarian needs. The people have been used as human shields as terrorist facilities have been constructed under hospitals, schools, and homes. But who gets blamed for all the ills of the Palestinian people? Israel.
We are living at a time when anti-Semitism is running rampant in the U.S. and many parts of the world. Listen to the speech that Senator Schumer gave on the Senate floor about how American Jews feel right now. And read Noa Tishby's book, Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth. You will learn a lot, including how many times since 1948 Israel has agreed to give up territory and accept a state of Palestine, only to have Palestinian leaders reject a two-state solution. And the reason they have rejected it in the past - and will in the future - is that they do not accept the very existence of Israel. "From the River to the Sea" is a call for Israel to be wiped off the map and the extermination of nine million Israeli Jews. A black female interviewee at the pro-Palestinian rally stated that she "would turn this country over to Republicans before she would vote for Joe Biden." Think about that statement, Mike, and how utterly ignorant of what a Trump presidency - make that, a Trump "dictatorship" - would mean to people of color.
I got a nice, short note from you in reply to my email of September 20. I did not hear back about my criticisms of Part 1 of "'War No More," and probably won't get a response to this email. Please prove me wrong and show that you can be impartial on this issue.
One last thing. You state that the pro-Palestinian rally of about 3,000 people in Brooklyn was the largest of its kind. But you don't even mention the pro-Israel/free the hostages rally on the Mall in Washington which was estimated at 300,000. Did any of your team go to that rally and interview Jews and others who support Israel and demand the release of hostages?
I think Micheal just doesn't get it on this issue. He does not understand that when you live next to people who want to kill you, and that when those people come to kill you, you have no choice but to wipe them out because if you do not, they will come back and they will kill more of your people. People. That is the position that is real has been in since 1948.
"No choice but to wipe them out"?
I understand that we cannot negotiate with terrorists, but do you really believe that there is no creative alternative to genocide to be found?
So heartening to hear from the guy that predicted in front of all America that Trump would win in 2016 that Trump will not be winning in 2024. I trust your instincts and feel more peace tonight as I prepare for bed on this first day of the New Year. I personally believe you in your wisdom express what I feel about the world better than anyone else. May God bless, Allah bless, Hashem bless us all - far into the future.
Today jan 1st 2024 I join you in committing my energy to the higher good of all by ending senseless gun violence, ending the killing of children home & abroad,
The alcohol won't help. But throwing up tomorrow morning will. That's what 2023 deserves.
I haven’t watched Planet of the Humans yet, but thanks you for saying out loud what I have been saying (my voice is small) all along. The answer is simple. Stop buying into Fear Of Missing Out. Stop unconscious consumption and exploitation.
If a corporation embraces ‘green energy’ the alarm bells should be ringing.
If anyone can get through to the White House and President Biden, can’t you Michael? I don’t know if he reads his letters from us, I know President Obama made a point of doing so.
All of us can contact him!
We can call here:
202-456-1414
We can email him using this form:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
We can write here:
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
Very moving podcast. On climate change, I'd love to hear more solutions. No one in the US really believes in Reduce, Recycle, Reuse except young people. My kids buy a lot of their goods at resale, eat lower on the food chain, recycle, compost. That's a culture change underway.
On gun violence, laws can only be applied after the fact. We need culture change to put an end to gun culture and the culture of violence the we embrace. Part of this is tied up in book banning and that the notion of teaching our history of conquest, enslavement, imperialism, and genocide will make our children feel guilty about our past. Maybe we can learn from the past to shape our present and future.
On Israel, two things are true at the same time: Hamas' attack was barbaric and the loss of Jewish life and prisoner taking is horrific and I mourn the losses of our Jewish brothers and sisters with you.
Israel's response is barbaric. It killed some of its own people while killing Hamas invaders. It continues its war of retribution and has killed thousands of women, children, elderly and disabled. It has killed the prisoners that Hamas took to Gaza by sniper fire, tunnel flooding, and indiscriminate bombing and shelling. Like you, I mourn for the loss of our Palestinian brothers and sisters too.
I have written our representatives in congress and President Biden numerous times to demand a cease fire and an end to funding of Israel's military..
I deplore the rise in antisemitic and anti-Palestininian violence and rhetoric. I equally abhor using antisemitism as a cudgel to supress free speech under the onslaught of Israeli propaganda.
Finally, Donald Trump must be kept off the ballot. It is definitely pro-democracy to enforce the Constitution. It sets the worst possible precedent to present voters with unqualified candidates.
I loved the emotion you showed us. Thanks.
Thank you. You are so special. I own all of your movies. Never stop.
Rumble with Michael Moore, Best Episode thus far, Happy New Year! But Mr. Michael Moore, I beg of you to refrain from using the term "Carpet Bombing" and inflammatory language a step beyond Genocidal language; it not a matter of being first or last, but stepping up as a Veteran Peacekeeper on a Global Scale placed in Genocidal Regions of the World for the Nineties through to post-9/11 World: I am equally appalled, but the perceived information filters past Pro-Hamas channels. The missiles fly in Israel daily, civilians are targeted daily by every Iranian Government backed group, and could fill your ears with actual informed opinion, but the point you're making is sound Mr. Michael Moore yet it is the extreme language the message is lost. I take my leave with an absolute appreciation for Mr. Michael Moore and his Fans', I am a big Fan, just take the time to be properly informed.
Happy New Year Michael! I also believe that the vast majority of Americans are not maga trumpers...many rational repubs have left the party...so there are fewer of them. Biden does not inspire...but another round of trump will get rational people out to vote. They will hold their noses and vote for the only candidate who still believes in our democratic republic. The repubs who left are registering as independents...I saw a stat that 20% of the registered voters are now independent. So I am keeping my fingers crossed and have built my own list of what I will do to ensure that the ideals stated in our constitution continue beyond 2024.