So after the IDF slaughtered 7 volunteer chefs and food workers on Monday, we now know that World Central Kitchen, who has served more than 43M meals to Palestinians, must be a terrorist operation.
I just do not get it. When I heard that Biden is sending 2000 pound bunker busting bombs to Israel, I was speechless. After Harris made it clear that the US must insist on a ceasefire for at least six weeks to get things moving on a two-state solution and now this. I thought the Biden's people knew what they were doing. We are doomed. Jews all over the world will be terrorized by angry people blaming them for the carnage in Gaza at the hands of a ruthless dictator Netanyahu. I was sympathetic to Biden's predicatment in trying to walk a fine line between powerful right wing pro Jewish donors and the majority of Americans who are appauled at the carnage in Gaza at the hands of the IDF. Biden will lose the election if he does not stand up to the Jewish right wing lobby in the US. I want to support him because Trump is a much greater threat to world peace than the things going on in Gaza. But at some point you have to ask why the carnage is still going on with weapons that we send to Israel. I am a Jew and want Israel to make peace with the Arabs or at least normalize relations. But with the monster Netanyahu in power, over 2 million Jewish settlers in the occuppied territories illegally, and a majority of Israelis supporting Netanyahu's genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, it seems unlikely that the war will end anytime soon. I am beginning to believe that maybe Biden is just not the man for the job of President for the first time. Please help me understand how this war in Gaza keeps going on with innocent civilians being killed, maimed, wounded and starved on a daily basis. If the people of Israel do not get rid of the murderer Netanyahu, the entire world will be against Israel and as Israel goes down, so does Biden and our freedom. I am angry at Biden and demand an explanation. But the Biden administration is silent. What can we do to stop the killing and to force Israel to accept that they are on a very wrong course that will help to support the rise of authoritarian regimes all over the world. If it happend in the US with a victory by Trump, then all is lost and we are royally screwed.
It’s possible that Biden doesn’t need pressure from right wing Jewish lobbyists, he seems to me to be fine doing what he’s doing, thus he could actually see Palestinians as sub-human. Just a possibility you must concede? After agreeing to a ceasefire by not vetoing his mouthpieces stated it was non-binding, then during Easter break he somehow got the authority to ship $ 18billion of weapons despite Bernie’s and others in the Senate protesting. Now this of which we know the WH flacks will defer to Israel’s “investigation!”
Without actual accountability criticism of folks like Biden are without meaning. I’m a former Biden voter, a lifetime Democrat, I will absolutely not vote for Biden even is his opponent turns out to be Satan and I don’t give a royal shit what the consequences will be, let the Democratic establishment figure that out before the convention in August. I also don’t giving a flying you know what about those who will comment on my utter stupidity, if they don’t want Trump they can do what’s possible to get Biden off the ticket, that would be a more productive use of their anger.
There will NEVER be a reason to allow Trump to win.
We all have hope now because Jill Biden has been demanding that Joe stop this slaughter--he came out with a strong statement.
I am aghast at how we have provided (all?) of the bombs and munitions that have turned (all?) Gaza into rubble, and caused the death of so many thousands of Palestinians. [Aghast is such an old fashioned term...appalled? sick to my stomach?] Well, I'm feeling unbearable compassionate pain.
My response was to the poster. For his deciding he could not vote for Biden, and would thus vote for T****. I, too, am sick of the destruction and death Netenyahu's government has brought to Gaza. It has to stop. The conflict between Palestinians and Israelis is unsolvable, until they both wish to find peace. Palestinians must be allowed a homeland, just as Israelis have.
PLEASE, Michael Moores' intention was never to allow Trump win, but to draw attention to the positions Biden has taken to support Netanyahu on our behalf. We are all screaming, "not on my behalf !"
Trump will promote assisting israel even more. He will not promote peace negotiations he is a violent human but the point is so is Joe Biden both murderers. No one supports trump
I seriously doubt arms manufacturers give a rat's behind what anybody thinks or does. Protest sounds good on paper but it takes a long time to get any traction. The Election in November is close and it is Biden who must figure out a way to navigate this mess. We definitely cannot depend on Israelis to stop Netanyahu. A majority believe he not aggressive enough.
I am amazed at how many likes I have been getting from my recents posts. Maybe it is because we all want the same result. My mantra is: why can't we just all get along. Each one of us alone has little power, but behind a voice like Michael Moore, we have strength because he does talk to people in power and people who are on the ground in places we only read and hear about on the news. The problem for me is that even though we all agree on the desired outcome, we are fighing/arguing among ourselves about how to get there. My current feeling about Biden (after hearing about the provision of 2000 pound bunker busting bombs0 is one that is reminds of the Paul Simon song, "And each time I try on the thought of leaving you, I STOP! and think it over..." As far as the gun manufacturers go, good luck. The people who buy beer are not the same people who buy bombs...and the people who sell bombs, well, we are not talking about people who have any kind of social conscience nor do they care about public opinion. Biden and his people are the key. I initially opposed the idea of liberal progressives in primaries not voting to send a message to Washington, but the primaries are over and we have only one more chance to cast our vote for peace, prosperity, equality, and for the chance, the ability with hard work and determination to realize the American Dream. The money is pouring into the coffers of the DNC and the RNC is going bankrupt paying Trump's bills. We have a golden opportunity to marginalize Republicans in the 2024 election in both Red and Blue states as the Republicans have put up unelectable candidates (the race for Govenor of North Carolina is one glaring example -- a holocaust denier in a purple state) and take back our country and our keep our Democracy (at least for four more years). This problem with Gaza is not going away. Netanyahu is not going away anytime soon as he has a majority of support by Israelis. Many believe he is not aggressive enough. Killing Palestinians does not seem to bother them. What I would like to know from the Biden administration is why they are sending 2000 pound bunker busting bombs to Israel. It is not enough for Michael to complain and satirize about the horrific conditions in Gaza. We need some plan that will unite us in some activities that will produce results and reach the minds, hearts, and ears of the people around Biden and Biden himself. Michael -- are you listening? I feel helpless, angry, and frustrated. The same feeling I get when I see federal judges treating Trump with gid gloves. Our justice system needs the same repair as our foreing policy with Isreal. Biden has it right with the Ukraine, why does he seem to be so tentative with Israel?
Yeah. I don't pay enough attention to brands of beer, I guess. But I was impressed how social media got a huge viral boycott going. Boycotts about more important things used to work in years past and the BUD lite boycott must have made other companies nervous.
As a former NATO and United Nations Peacekeeper, I can help. Ordenance shipped by Allocation of funds is a prior Act of Congress not the Executive Branch. Ordenance stated is for an intrenched adversary, but not just leveling Buildings, but a broadening War. Lebanon, Syria, and especially Iran is going to take a large quantity of Ordenance and various other forms of Weaponry. This last order was a very small portion of Aid shipped to Israel throughout the year, and unfortunately the Executive Branch for all its seasoned diplomacy cannot afford to collide with the House of Representatives, for two fronts: getting legislation in place (republican cooperation), or gifting the GOP with not a policy of their own but that of a policy decision the Democrat President of the United States of America makes, that they can counter and reverse to retake the Senate and Presidency.
As I suspected, this is not a result of a decision by the Biden administration. It does come at a most inoportune political moment. It is being reported, as usual, by the media without clarification or context. Regardless of the facts, it will appear to many Americans as hypocracy and a double standard, one for Israel and one for every other nation in our foreign policy. Support for Israel among American Jews is undergoing a shift from dogged support of zionism by older people, like myself, and the younger generation that is aligning itself with those who believe that the Israeli government, supported by a majority of the Israeli public, has for many years carried out a policy of aparteid. Add to the mix a noticeable rise in anti-semitism in the world and things get very complicated for Jews who believe in the rule of law and fairness. I have recently read articles by young American Jews raised in families strongly supporting the IDC and their fight against terrorist organizations who joined the IDF only to find that its practices were obhorrent to them. They have found, to their dismay, that their beliefs in justice and fairness is more aligned with Palestinians who honestly feel that they are an oppressed people. These were hard articles to read and videos to watch. At some point, it becomes near impossible to process so many cross-currents and so many conflicting emotions. The American voting public appears to me to have a tendency to oversimplify issues and look for simple solutions to very complex problems. For me as a Jew who has always believed in the right for Israel to exist surrounded by powerful forces who believed the opposite, it is hard to process what is currently happening in Gaza and forces me to rethink my attitude toward Israel as the victim and to see it as the aggressor. It is hard to accept that the current authoritarian regime under Netanyahu supported by millions of Jewish settlers in the occupied territories and by the general pubic in Israel is and has been the status quo for years. The Israel of the movie Exodus has become a relic of Zionism as I knew it growing up. The ascendency of Israel in the decades since Sharon was Prime Minister and the corruption scandals that have ensued, is a new reality. One wonders if an attempt by the Biden administration to cut off miliitary aid to Israel, given the strength of the Israeli economy, would have the desired effect as Israel could whether this loss. The outcome could result in Netanyahu's dream of a second Trump administration that would give him carte blanche to destroy any hope of Palestinian state emerging from the rubble of Gaza. It would also send a message that America is weak, uncertain, unstable, and unwilling to fight for democracy and freedom for oppressed peoples in the world, a clear invitaton to Putin, China, and Iran that whatever they are doing is working.
Being there, or having lived there as my Brother-in-law has, the perspective is radically different than the media narratives. Israel is far more a multicultural mosaic with vast array of religious traditions and beliefs. Settlers in the thousands in pockets in often fewer than a hundred, which leads to a fact Israel is both dimensionality small but its overall population is small, making the media highlighted minority communities smaller than perceived. Palestinian people is a diaspora of unwanted Arab people's amongst Arab Nations ; false assurances to these many Tribes or Family groups were first given a feeling of nation by the British without any Commonwealth benefit handed off to Egypt when Britain's empire sunseted. Truth in a complex problem no combination of Arab states want responsibility for, thus leaving Israel in less of an Apartheid Organization, but trying to find security amongst a people wanting that Nationhood, that Netanyahu Coalition swore to never allow.
Thank you Richard Nollman and Andrew Stewart Weir.
Reality is always a singular perspective. But mine agrees more with yours than with others on this thread. So many presume to see the truth when all they see is a part of it. I keep asking why the US is so distraught about what is happening in the very small country called Israel when almost all Americans have no idea what it is like to live there. What we see over the internet and in all media are snapshots and sound bites of the Israeli-Palestinian reality. War is not happening everywhere all the time in a war zone. Ask the Ukraine. Ask any combat veteran.
And perhaps more importantly, almost all Americans have no idea what fears the people of Israel and Palestine live with. Americans enjoy the peaceful resolution of conflicts by using an evolving set of non-religious laws that are continuously being discovered through the US State and Federal court system, not a religious zealot. The whole world desperately needs a stable non-sectarian world power that supports peacefully solutions and democratic principles around the world. No one needs that super power to weigh in and help kill someone else’s opponents. That is what Iran is doing. Does the US really want to use Iran as a role model?
Glad to be able to read your comments and truths again instead of trying, unsuccessfully to g ind them in the vast cyberspace. Please remain a voice needed to be heard by all thinking human beings.
And yet Dems want to guilt us into voting for them because they are the lesser of 2 evils? When will we stand up for the innocent lives being murdered here? When will Americans grow some kahunas?
God, I'm so thankful that you straightened this whole mess out. Like you, I long suspected that Chef Andres and his minions were of terrorist persuasion, hiding behind their phony front of trying to keep people from starving to death, with great-looking, beautifully-prepared food. So, thanks for clearing this up.
Anyone who votes for genocide Joe will betray the Palestinians. It’s a red line. If you vote pro genocide out of fear of Trump, you accept the bribe and will be on the wrong side of history. No one wants Trump and his Christian fascists but neoliberalism has fueled its rise. What do we do? Liberals despise the “deplorable” working class MAGA crowd, the same working class that liberals claim to want to empower, but MAGA despises the finger wagging shit-libs who lecture them on their bad manners while supporting war funding based on lies. I watched “60 minutes” the other night, what utter legacy media propaganda, Russophobia designed to scare old people. The elite media have helped divide us. We must find common ground somehow and realize we have more in common than not. Don’t let neoliberal’s and neocons play this con game. Stop these corporate militarist oligarchs. Don’t vote for the uniparty. Support Kucinich, support the real left and don’t fall for this scam anymore. Outside pressure and grassroots organizing is our only hope. Not the corporate state and its puppets.
I wish that supporting the liberal left will help. Biden will be facing Trump on Election Day. There is no alternative. If Trump wins, the terror in Gaza will just continue and we will be giving the greenlight to authoritarian regimes and potential ones that America no longer believes in freedom and will be a world leader that no longer can be trusted to be a brokers for peace. Somehow we must in one voice get through to Biden's people and make them understand that this course of support for Israel by America unconditionally will defeat him in November. For the first time I am really petrified that Trump can win. Maybe the message needs to get throught to the hard right Jews in America who support Netanyahu. I just do not have enough knowledge of what these people are telling Biden. He needs their support to win in November, so what is the answer. Damned if I know. In the words of Bob Dylan: a hard rain is gonna fall...
There is an alternative before the August convention ratifies Biden, Lyndon Johnson did it…there’s still time to save our Democracy and help the Palestinians…it’s brainwashing to think this is all over!
To all those who think that they have no choice but to vote for T****, for whatever reason, let me remind you again of the consequences should he regain the Oval Office. They will be disastrous, for all of us. As for the 'wrong side of history', you have it bass ackwards.
Eff you! No one wants to vote for Rumplestilskin. But to say there are no other options is BS! We have plenty of other options. we just all have to get behind 1 candidate in every state? How do we do that? We have a pre-November people's primary in every state. Of all the candidates we RCV them and then everyone gets behind the winner in their state! And we also flip all of our House Rep seats! These 2 parties need to be history!
Please limit yourself to choices that are in the realm of possibility. If you have an option that is really feasible, fine, but I'll wager you don't. RCV? I've been involved in that battle for a long time (I'm all for it), and the chance of it being accepted nationwide is as close to zero as you can get. We have to play the hand we've been dealt.
Where did you learn that it is wise to keep doing what you’ve always done and expect different results? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!
I'm not expecting different results. I'm merely trying to keep my grandchildren safe from T****. If he gains the Oval, I am one of the army of grandfathers who will do whatever is necessary to thwart him and his minions. I want the Orange Skidmark in chains, in a maximum security prison, with no internet access. For the rest of his miserable life.
I absolutely agree with you. A vote for tRumPutin is a vote for the Death of Democracy and supports authoritarian governments worldwide. The very rich will openly rule the world. My granddaughter will have either no future, or a very dystopian one.
Green Party has ballot access almost everywhere. Give someonecelse a chance and stop voting from fear - THERE ARE OTHER CHOICES!! Give peace a chance for real
1000%…and the DNC knows that Biden will not win and leadership and their sycophants continue to argue that WE are the bad guys, WE are going to be the ones who put Trump back in the WH, WE are the ones who will destroy the last vestiges of democracy. How about THEY wake the fuck up!
When something this obvious continues to go on (Biden continues his campaign for the presidency)…when a better, AIPAC-free, candidate should be raised and they are not, you have to ask why would they want it that way? Why are we being forced to decide between a fascist-loving dictator-wannabe and a genocidal Zionist loving octogenarian?
The irony of your point is that I'm betting there are lots of Biden voters who are so furious at the Democratic leadership now that they think the best way to send them an angry message is to vote for Trump. I'd never for that that repulsive scumbag but I get it.
Dennis Kucinich? how much can he do as an Independent congressman (if he is elected)? I like the guy, he has a great history as a fighter with moral courage. But why not suggest RFK jr?
Thanks for reply . I like everything about RFK and donated to his environmental causes 20 yrs ago, but he’s supporting genocide. He’s talking every bit of aipac money
RFK jr was being realistic politically when he said statements in support of Israel earlier in the war (I assume he has backtracked some amount giving the huge amounts of killing - but I don't know). Knowing that RFK jr has moral courage to stand up to all the other injustices in this world (unlike the Democrat party that I used to belong to) gives me confidence that he would have treated this war much differently than Biden.
I wonder what kind of leader RFKjr would be. I have no idea. He's not perfect but neither are the other two. At least he'd address health concerns in our environment more than the other two.
I think you’re right. But he needs to denounce this genocide and Netanyahu gov’t. He made a mistake and it’s not helping, but hurting his political chances too.
Please write to the President, to entreat him to put the brakes on delivery of more arms to Israel. He needs to hear from voters that we don’t want to be complicit in genocide. Enough is enough.
I have written to the WH about 20 times. I’ve stopped writing. There is no low they will not stoop to and no amount of pressure changes anything…Biden puts on his sad face for the cameras and continues on his genocidal path.
He is the only one who has the power to stop this yesterday. Just tell Israel, full stop on all aid until you stop killing. pull back. cease fire. If he doesn't do this, he's a coward.
Actually, the White House tallies responses. The President isn’t disregarding you, or me; we’re not going to get a personal note back. What we strive for is enough like-minded people with the same message, that is what can change policy. Ditto messaging your Senators. And your Congressional Representatives. If they don’t hear from us, then they don’t know what we think. They care, because we elect them.
Yes, agree in theory, and have sent more than my share to the Prez. But excuse me for believing at this point that Biden, Schumer and Gillibrand don’t give a 💩 what I think about Israel.
I don't think he was going for satire as much as just the absurdity of the way Netanyahu is using such a flimsy excuse to commit more genocide. It is disgusting no matter how it is presented. I doubt if Michael meant it to come off as a joke but rather as a tragedy.
Israel seems determined to kill as many Palestinians as it can, no matter if they're Hamas. The Netenyahu government is just doing what Israelis learned to do, taught by the Nazis.
When will we, Americans, stop blindly supporting the Zionists, who are in control of Israel and illegally occupying the rest of Palestine, because we have been made to feel guilty for the Holocaust carried out by NAZI government of Germany over 80 years ago. We are willing to stand by and watch the Zionists carry out a Holocaust of their own against the Palestinians. Don't equate this as an anti-semitic observation, we have three daughters-in-law and two of them are of Jewish ancestry. But as a mainline Christian [RCA] Church who sponsors a mission to the Palestinian Christians living in the West Bank, I see that the IDF is guilty of human rights as they occupy the Palestinian land. Mike, if you want to find out about what is going on in occupied Palestine I will gladly put you in contact with one of our missionaries.
Killing sous chefs and destroying hospitals are part of the same ideology. Genocide is the goal in Gaza. It is bad for the hostages who are liable to be killed by the IDF as the were last year when trying to get help and carrying a white flag and shirtless.
It is also bad for Israel which is becoming a pariah among nations.
What the US has just sent to Netanyahu will help him finish the job.
Here's what's really sad about what's happening in Gaza:
During the January 6th riot, Jim Jordan came over to Liz Cheney and said: "We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you." Cheney smacked his hand away and told him, "Get away from me. You f—ing did this.”
How does that apply to Gaza?
In this way: instead of Israel bombing the crap out of Gaza, on the pretext of "destroying Hamas" (sic), what should have happened, on October 8th, is: some non-Hamas leader in Gaza should have gotten in touch with the powers-that-be in Jerusalem and said, "Give us a week." That leader should then have gotten 2 million Gaza Palestinians to confront every single Hamas member, telling them to "leave this country; you're not welcome here anymore. If you don't, Israel will start bombing the hell out of us, in retaliation for October 7th, and it will be because YOU F***ING DID THIS!"
Naturally, that didn't happen, and most likely couldn't have happened, because, like the U. S. after 9/11, Israel had to bomb the crap out of someone—anyone!—and any attempt at diplomacy, in place of the mass murder of innocents, would have fallen on dear ears.
And so it goes, in this slaughterhouse of a world.
I just do not get it. When I heard that Biden is sending 2000 pound bunker busting bombs to Israel, I was speechless. After Harris made it clear that the US must insist on a ceasefire for at least six weeks to get things moving on a two-state solution and now this. I thought the Biden's people knew what they were doing. We are doomed. Jews all over the world will be terrorized by angry people blaming them for the carnage in Gaza at the hands of a ruthless dictator Netanyahu. I was sympathetic to Biden's predicatment in trying to walk a fine line between powerful right wing pro Jewish donors and the majority of Americans who are appauled at the carnage in Gaza at the hands of the IDF. Biden will lose the election if he does not stand up to the Jewish right wing lobby in the US. I want to support him because Trump is a much greater threat to world peace than the things going on in Gaza. But at some point you have to ask why the carnage is still going on with weapons that we send to Israel. I am a Jew and want Israel to make peace with the Arabs or at least normalize relations. But with the monster Netanyahu in power, over 2 million Jewish settlers in the occuppied territories illegally, and a majority of Israelis supporting Netanyahu's genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza, it seems unlikely that the war will end anytime soon. I am beginning to believe that maybe Biden is just not the man for the job of President for the first time. Please help me understand how this war in Gaza keeps going on with innocent civilians being killed, maimed, wounded and starved on a daily basis. If the people of Israel do not get rid of the murderer Netanyahu, the entire world will be against Israel and as Israel goes down, so does Biden and our freedom. I am angry at Biden and demand an explanation. But the Biden administration is silent. What can we do to stop the killing and to force Israel to accept that they are on a very wrong course that will help to support the rise of authoritarian regimes all over the world. If it happend in the US with a victory by Trump, then all is lost and we are royally screwed.
It’s possible that Biden doesn’t need pressure from right wing Jewish lobbyists, he seems to me to be fine doing what he’s doing, thus he could actually see Palestinians as sub-human. Just a possibility you must concede? After agreeing to a ceasefire by not vetoing his mouthpieces stated it was non-binding, then during Easter break he somehow got the authority to ship $ 18billion of weapons despite Bernie’s and others in the Senate protesting. Now this of which we know the WH flacks will defer to Israel’s “investigation!”
Without actual accountability criticism of folks like Biden are without meaning. I’m a former Biden voter, a lifetime Democrat, I will absolutely not vote for Biden even is his opponent turns out to be Satan and I don’t give a royal shit what the consequences will be, let the Democratic establishment figure that out before the convention in August. I also don’t giving a flying you know what about those who will comment on my utter stupidity, if they don’t want Trump they can do what’s possible to get Biden off the ticket, that would be a more productive use of their anger.
Must you be so blatant in flaunting your idiocy?
I'm an idiot, too so idiots unite until the Democrats face reality.
Hah, maybe we “idiots” should team up and write “Democracy for Dummies?”
Who's the "you" you are addressing?
There will NEVER be a reason to allow Trump to win.
We all have hope now because Jill Biden has been demanding that Joe stop this slaughter--he came out with a strong statement.
I am aghast at how we have provided (all?) of the bombs and munitions that have turned (all?) Gaza into rubble, and caused the death of so many thousands of Palestinians. [Aghast is such an old fashioned term...appalled? sick to my stomach?] Well, I'm feeling unbearable compassionate pain.
My response was to the poster. For his deciding he could not vote for Biden, and would thus vote for T****. I, too, am sick of the destruction and death Netenyahu's government has brought to Gaza. It has to stop. The conflict between Palestinians and Israelis is unsolvable, until they both wish to find peace. Palestinians must be allowed a homeland, just as Israelis have.
Yes
Yes he will. People who feel very strongly as I do about killing people for any reason won't vote for either of these men and we are many.
PLEASE, Michael Moores' intention was never to allow Trump win, but to draw attention to the positions Biden has taken to support Netanyahu on our behalf. We are all screaming, "not on my behalf !"
Trump will promote assisting israel even more. He will not promote peace negotiations he is a violent human but the point is so is Joe Biden both murderers. No one supports trump
Amen Charlotte!
Protest outside arms manufacturers and stop the people going to work.
Protest everywhere you can.
I seriously doubt arms manufacturers give a rat's behind what anybody thinks or does. Protest sounds good on paper but it takes a long time to get any traction. The Election in November is close and it is Biden who must figure out a way to navigate this mess. We definitely cannot depend on Israelis to stop Netanyahu. A majority believe he not aggressive enough.
I am amazed at how many likes I have been getting from my recents posts. Maybe it is because we all want the same result. My mantra is: why can't we just all get along. Each one of us alone has little power, but behind a voice like Michael Moore, we have strength because he does talk to people in power and people who are on the ground in places we only read and hear about on the news. The problem for me is that even though we all agree on the desired outcome, we are fighing/arguing among ourselves about how to get there. My current feeling about Biden (after hearing about the provision of 2000 pound bunker busting bombs0 is one that is reminds of the Paul Simon song, "And each time I try on the thought of leaving you, I STOP! and think it over..." As far as the gun manufacturers go, good luck. The people who buy beer are not the same people who buy bombs...and the people who sell bombs, well, we are not talking about people who have any kind of social conscience nor do they care about public opinion. Biden and his people are the key. I initially opposed the idea of liberal progressives in primaries not voting to send a message to Washington, but the primaries are over and we have only one more chance to cast our vote for peace, prosperity, equality, and for the chance, the ability with hard work and determination to realize the American Dream. The money is pouring into the coffers of the DNC and the RNC is going bankrupt paying Trump's bills. We have a golden opportunity to marginalize Republicans in the 2024 election in both Red and Blue states as the Republicans have put up unelectable candidates (the race for Govenor of North Carolina is one glaring example -- a holocaust denier in a purple state) and take back our country and our keep our Democracy (at least for four more years). This problem with Gaza is not going away. Netanyahu is not going away anytime soon as he has a majority of support by Israelis. Many believe he is not aggressive enough. Killing Palestinians does not seem to bother them. What I would like to know from the Biden administration is why they are sending 2000 pound bunker busting bombs to Israel. It is not enough for Michael to complain and satirize about the horrific conditions in Gaza. We need some plan that will unite us in some activities that will produce results and reach the minds, hearts, and ears of the people around Biden and Biden himself. Michael -- are you listening? I feel helpless, angry, and frustrated. The same feeling I get when I see federal judges treating Trump with gid gloves. Our justice system needs the same repair as our foreing policy with Isreal. Biden has it right with the Ukraine, why does he seem to be so tentative with Israel?
I have no faith in Biden so.... whatever. We're screwed with either candidate.
You missed my point entirely.
Take a look at Lisa Savages posts about people protesting outside Arms manufacturers.........the workers can't go in to work!
If we could muster even a little enthusiasm for this cause that those Bid Lite people did, it would make a difference.
I presume you mean BUD lite?
Yeah. I don't pay enough attention to brands of beer, I guess. But I was impressed how social media got a huge viral boycott going. Boycotts about more important things used to work in years past and the BUD lite boycott must have made other companies nervous.
All the times that I've been in protests, most of the ones standing next to me were Jews.
OK
BUT are they protesting the Zionists too?
It's easy to find stories of Jews protesting Zionism.
OF course.
As a former NATO and United Nations Peacekeeper, I can help. Ordenance shipped by Allocation of funds is a prior Act of Congress not the Executive Branch. Ordenance stated is for an intrenched adversary, but not just leveling Buildings, but a broadening War. Lebanon, Syria, and especially Iran is going to take a large quantity of Ordenance and various other forms of Weaponry. This last order was a very small portion of Aid shipped to Israel throughout the year, and unfortunately the Executive Branch for all its seasoned diplomacy cannot afford to collide with the House of Representatives, for two fronts: getting legislation in place (republican cooperation), or gifting the GOP with not a policy of their own but that of a policy decision the Democrat President of the United States of America makes, that they can counter and reverse to retake the Senate and Presidency.
As I suspected, this is not a result of a decision by the Biden administration. It does come at a most inoportune political moment. It is being reported, as usual, by the media without clarification or context. Regardless of the facts, it will appear to many Americans as hypocracy and a double standard, one for Israel and one for every other nation in our foreign policy. Support for Israel among American Jews is undergoing a shift from dogged support of zionism by older people, like myself, and the younger generation that is aligning itself with those who believe that the Israeli government, supported by a majority of the Israeli public, has for many years carried out a policy of aparteid. Add to the mix a noticeable rise in anti-semitism in the world and things get very complicated for Jews who believe in the rule of law and fairness. I have recently read articles by young American Jews raised in families strongly supporting the IDC and their fight against terrorist organizations who joined the IDF only to find that its practices were obhorrent to them. They have found, to their dismay, that their beliefs in justice and fairness is more aligned with Palestinians who honestly feel that they are an oppressed people. These were hard articles to read and videos to watch. At some point, it becomes near impossible to process so many cross-currents and so many conflicting emotions. The American voting public appears to me to have a tendency to oversimplify issues and look for simple solutions to very complex problems. For me as a Jew who has always believed in the right for Israel to exist surrounded by powerful forces who believed the opposite, it is hard to process what is currently happening in Gaza and forces me to rethink my attitude toward Israel as the victim and to see it as the aggressor. It is hard to accept that the current authoritarian regime under Netanyahu supported by millions of Jewish settlers in the occupied territories and by the general pubic in Israel is and has been the status quo for years. The Israel of the movie Exodus has become a relic of Zionism as I knew it growing up. The ascendency of Israel in the decades since Sharon was Prime Minister and the corruption scandals that have ensued, is a new reality. One wonders if an attempt by the Biden administration to cut off miliitary aid to Israel, given the strength of the Israeli economy, would have the desired effect as Israel could whether this loss. The outcome could result in Netanyahu's dream of a second Trump administration that would give him carte blanche to destroy any hope of Palestinian state emerging from the rubble of Gaza. It would also send a message that America is weak, uncertain, unstable, and unwilling to fight for democracy and freedom for oppressed peoples in the world, a clear invitaton to Putin, China, and Iran that whatever they are doing is working.
Being there, or having lived there as my Brother-in-law has, the perspective is radically different than the media narratives. Israel is far more a multicultural mosaic with vast array of religious traditions and beliefs. Settlers in the thousands in pockets in often fewer than a hundred, which leads to a fact Israel is both dimensionality small but its overall population is small, making the media highlighted minority communities smaller than perceived. Palestinian people is a diaspora of unwanted Arab people's amongst Arab Nations ; false assurances to these many Tribes or Family groups were first given a feeling of nation by the British without any Commonwealth benefit handed off to Egypt when Britain's empire sunseted. Truth in a complex problem no combination of Arab states want responsibility for, thus leaving Israel in less of an Apartheid Organization, but trying to find security amongst a people wanting that Nationhood, that Netanyahu Coalition swore to never allow.
Thank you Richard Nollman and Andrew Stewart Weir.
Reality is always a singular perspective. But mine agrees more with yours than with others on this thread. So many presume to see the truth when all they see is a part of it. I keep asking why the US is so distraught about what is happening in the very small country called Israel when almost all Americans have no idea what it is like to live there. What we see over the internet and in all media are snapshots and sound bites of the Israeli-Palestinian reality. War is not happening everywhere all the time in a war zone. Ask the Ukraine. Ask any combat veteran.
And perhaps more importantly, almost all Americans have no idea what fears the people of Israel and Palestine live with. Americans enjoy the peaceful resolution of conflicts by using an evolving set of non-religious laws that are continuously being discovered through the US State and Federal court system, not a religious zealot. The whole world desperately needs a stable non-sectarian world power that supports peacefully solutions and democratic principles around the world. No one needs that super power to weigh in and help kill someone else’s opponents. That is what Iran is doing. Does the US really want to use Iran as a role model?
All the best,
David
IDF not IDC...
Vote for the right person, not the lesser of two evils. Vote Cornel West!
And waste a vote. Which means T**** might have more than a snowball's chance in hell of winning. And that, Arax, is an effing disaster.
Fuck Cornell West!! He’s another Obama—pretending he’s Bernie!🤬
Short answer: Netanyahu Coalition, is blowing up Hezbollah on the North Border, and Mark my words some are earmarked for Tehran, Iran.
Glad to be able to read your comments and truths again instead of trying, unsuccessfully to g ind them in the vast cyberspace. Please remain a voice needed to be heard by all thinking human beings.
And yet Dems want to guilt us into voting for them because they are the lesser of 2 evils? When will we stand up for the innocent lives being murdered here? When will Americans grow some kahunas?
Evil is still evil, no matter how you package it!
How about now Kathryn?
God, I'm so thankful that you straightened this whole mess out. Like you, I long suspected that Chef Andres and his minions were of terrorist persuasion, hiding behind their phony front of trying to keep people from starving to death, with great-looking, beautifully-prepared food. So, thanks for clearing this up.
There will be no recovering from this terror.
Agree. We are going to reap what we sowed.
You are so right! What do we do now?
Anyone who votes for genocide Joe will betray the Palestinians. It’s a red line. If you vote pro genocide out of fear of Trump, you accept the bribe and will be on the wrong side of history. No one wants Trump and his Christian fascists but neoliberalism has fueled its rise. What do we do? Liberals despise the “deplorable” working class MAGA crowd, the same working class that liberals claim to want to empower, but MAGA despises the finger wagging shit-libs who lecture them on their bad manners while supporting war funding based on lies. I watched “60 minutes” the other night, what utter legacy media propaganda, Russophobia designed to scare old people. The elite media have helped divide us. We must find common ground somehow and realize we have more in common than not. Don’t let neoliberal’s and neocons play this con game. Stop these corporate militarist oligarchs. Don’t vote for the uniparty. Support Kucinich, support the real left and don’t fall for this scam anymore. Outside pressure and grassroots organizing is our only hope. Not the corporate state and its puppets.
I wish that supporting the liberal left will help. Biden will be facing Trump on Election Day. There is no alternative. If Trump wins, the terror in Gaza will just continue and we will be giving the greenlight to authoritarian regimes and potential ones that America no longer believes in freedom and will be a world leader that no longer can be trusted to be a brokers for peace. Somehow we must in one voice get through to Biden's people and make them understand that this course of support for Israel by America unconditionally will defeat him in November. For the first time I am really petrified that Trump can win. Maybe the message needs to get throught to the hard right Jews in America who support Netanyahu. I just do not have enough knowledge of what these people are telling Biden. He needs their support to win in November, so what is the answer. Damned if I know. In the words of Bob Dylan: a hard rain is gonna fall...
US has never been a broker for peace! US does what benefits the top wealthy 1% of the world. It’s just that it’s becoming more apparent nowadays
Which is why we need to send them all to the sidewalk! Vote them all out!
There is an alternative before the August convention ratifies Biden, Lyndon Johnson did it…there’s still time to save our Democracy and help the Palestinians…it’s brainwashing to think this is all over!
To all those who think that they have no choice but to vote for T****, for whatever reason, let me remind you again of the consequences should he regain the Oval Office. They will be disastrous, for all of us. As for the 'wrong side of history', you have it bass ackwards.
Eff you! No one wants to vote for Rumplestilskin. But to say there are no other options is BS! We have plenty of other options. we just all have to get behind 1 candidate in every state? How do we do that? We have a pre-November people's primary in every state. Of all the candidates we RCV them and then everyone gets behind the winner in their state! And we also flip all of our House Rep seats! These 2 parties need to be history!
Please limit yourself to choices that are in the realm of possibility. If you have an option that is really feasible, fine, but I'll wager you don't. RCV? I've been involved in that battle for a long time (I'm all for it), and the chance of it being accepted nationwide is as close to zero as you can get. We have to play the hand we've been dealt.
Where did you learn that it is wise to keep doing what you’ve always done and expect different results? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!
I'm not expecting different results. I'm merely trying to keep my grandchildren safe from T****. If he gains the Oval, I am one of the army of grandfathers who will do whatever is necessary to thwart him and his minions. I want the Orange Skidmark in chains, in a maximum security prison, with no internet access. For the rest of his miserable life.
I absolutely agree with you. A vote for tRumPutin is a vote for the Death of Democracy and supports authoritarian governments worldwide. The very rich will openly rule the world. My granddaughter will have either no future, or a very dystopian one.
Green Party has ballot access almost everywhere. Give someonecelse a chance and stop voting from fear - THERE ARE OTHER CHOICES!! Give peace a chance for real
Write to the President, and say this. He needs to hear from all of us that this will not stand
I'm tempted to do that but then I think of all the money working against our tiny voices.
1000%…and the DNC knows that Biden will not win and leadership and their sycophants continue to argue that WE are the bad guys, WE are going to be the ones who put Trump back in the WH, WE are the ones who will destroy the last vestiges of democracy. How about THEY wake the fuck up!
When something this obvious continues to go on (Biden continues his campaign for the presidency)…when a better, AIPAC-free, candidate should be raised and they are not, you have to ask why would they want it that way? Why are we being forced to decide between a fascist-loving dictator-wannabe and a genocidal Zionist loving octogenarian?
The irony of your point is that I'm betting there are lots of Biden voters who are so furious at the Democratic leadership now that they think the best way to send them an angry message is to vote for Trump. I'd never for that that repulsive scumbag but I get it.
They are both fascists owned by lobbyists thats why joe is nicer
SUPPORT GREENS!
Kucinich? Forced birther
Dennis Kucinich? how much can he do as an Independent congressman (if he is elected)? I like the guy, he has a great history as a fighter with moral courage. But why not suggest RFK jr?
Thanks for reply . I like everything about RFK and donated to his environmental causes 20 yrs ago, but he’s supporting genocide. He’s talking every bit of aipac money
RFK jr was being realistic politically when he said statements in support of Israel earlier in the war (I assume he has backtracked some amount giving the huge amounts of killing - but I don't know). Knowing that RFK jr has moral courage to stand up to all the other injustices in this world (unlike the Democrat party that I used to belong to) gives me confidence that he would have treated this war much differently than Biden.
I wonder what kind of leader RFKjr would be. I have no idea. He's not perfect but neither are the other two. At least he'd address health concerns in our environment more than the other two.
Maybe another year. This year he is just a spoiler.
I think you’re right. But he needs to denounce this genocide and Netanyahu gov’t. He made a mistake and it’s not helping, but hurting his political chances too.
What do I not like about RFK? He's too close to all of the political elite. He has wined and dined with them! We need to throw them all out!
look at RFK's positions - he's strongly against the corporate capture of regulators,
wined and dined means little, look closer at his positions
Yeah, like his choice of running mate... a woman with DEEP pockets.
I mean everything about him …but the huge problem that is
Please write to the President, to entreat him to put the brakes on delivery of more arms to Israel. He needs to hear from voters that we don’t want to be complicit in genocide. Enough is enough.
I have written to the WH about 20 times. I’ve stopped writing. There is no low they will not stoop to and no amount of pressure changes anything…Biden puts on his sad face for the cameras and continues on his genocidal path.
He is the only one who has the power to stop this yesterday. Just tell Israel, full stop on all aid until you stop killing. pull back. cease fire. If he doesn't do this, he's a coward.
He’s a coward. He’s taken so much money from AIPAC and other Israel-loving hardliners he will not revert.
Both men leading us into fascism. Biden horrific border policy - Louis deJoy still dismantling post office. NO!! 3rd party and NO RFK!! I am a Green
Cathlynn, When you write to the President please give him my warmest regards for disregarding me, thanks to Tracy Chapman.
Actually, the White House tallies responses. The President isn’t disregarding you, or me; we’re not going to get a personal note back. What we strive for is enough like-minded people with the same message, that is what can change policy. Ditto messaging your Senators. And your Congressional Representatives. If they don’t hear from us, then they don’t know what we think. They care, because we elect them.
Yes, agree in theory, and have sent more than my share to the Prez. But excuse me for believing at this point that Biden, Schumer and Gillibrand don’t give a 💩 what I think about Israel.
Is this supposed to be funny? It's written in the same tone as a Borowitz piece, except I highly doubt he would make a joke of a crime thing heinous.
I don't think he was going for satire as much as just the absurdity of the way Netanyahu is using such a flimsy excuse to commit more genocide. It is disgusting no matter how it is presented. I doubt if Michael meant it to come off as a joke but rather as a tragedy.
It's black humor. well-written and powerful.
I meant "this heinous". Stupid spellchecker.
Israel seems determined to kill as many Palestinians as it can, no matter if they're Hamas. The Netenyahu government is just doing what Israelis learned to do, taught by the Nazis.
This is what can be expected when someone unleashes an army upon a civilian population in a desert.
All Isreal is doing is copy what we did during Viet Nam and that failed miserably. This will as well.
Except Israel lives there. Vietnam was not our home.
The Second Coming
BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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When will we, Americans, stop blindly supporting the Zionists, who are in control of Israel and illegally occupying the rest of Palestine, because we have been made to feel guilty for the Holocaust carried out by NAZI government of Germany over 80 years ago. We are willing to stand by and watch the Zionists carry out a Holocaust of their own against the Palestinians. Don't equate this as an anti-semitic observation, we have three daughters-in-law and two of them are of Jewish ancestry. But as a mainline Christian [RCA] Church who sponsors a mission to the Palestinian Christians living in the West Bank, I see that the IDF is guilty of human rights as they occupy the Palestinian land. Mike, if you want to find out about what is going on in occupied Palestine I will gladly put you in contact with one of our missionaries.
Maybe you could go be a missionary in Iran if Israel loses the war, G-d forbid. Options!
Killing sous chefs and destroying hospitals are part of the same ideology. Genocide is the goal in Gaza. It is bad for the hostages who are liable to be killed by the IDF as the were last year when trying to get help and carrying a white flag and shirtless.
It is also bad for Israel which is becoming a pariah among nations.
What the US has just sent to Netanyahu will help him finish the job.
Here's what's really sad about what's happening in Gaza:
During the January 6th riot, Jim Jordan came over to Liz Cheney and said: "We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you." Cheney smacked his hand away and told him, "Get away from me. You f—ing did this.”
How does that apply to Gaza?
In this way: instead of Israel bombing the crap out of Gaza, on the pretext of "destroying Hamas" (sic), what should have happened, on October 8th, is: some non-Hamas leader in Gaza should have gotten in touch with the powers-that-be in Jerusalem and said, "Give us a week." That leader should then have gotten 2 million Gaza Palestinians to confront every single Hamas member, telling them to "leave this country; you're not welcome here anymore. If you don't, Israel will start bombing the hell out of us, in retaliation for October 7th, and it will be because YOU F***ING DID THIS!"
Naturally, that didn't happen, and most likely couldn't have happened, because, like the U. S. after 9/11, Israel had to bomb the crap out of someone—anyone!—and any attempt at diplomacy, in place of the mass murder of innocents, would have fallen on dear ears.
And so it goes, in this slaughterhouse of a world.
"deaf ears". Sorry
I call and write the president and my representatives in Congress. What else can we do?
What I do not understand is why we can send bombs and airplanes to Isreal but not to Ucraine?
Ask your local GOP representative. They're the ones holding up the aid. A traitorous, murderous lot, all of them.