What if people of Michigan had turned their attention to Netanyahu to stop him? Or to the Muslim and Arab countries that won't help the Palestinians? What if people of Michigan had turned their attention to the radical religioius sects (both christian and muslim) who believe in killing (and have for 2000+ years). How many millions upon millions have been killed for 2000+ years and recently because of radical islamic sects and NOW white christian nationalists have been planning to bring forth the End Times using Israel? They had trump move the Embassy to Jerusalem as one step closer and working with Russia as 'the last white christian country.. Why are they not up in arms about those things? And why didn't the people of Michigan put pressure on the United Nations to step in? There are SO many things the people of Michigan could be doing other than what they have 'chosen' to do. By going after Biden, then open the door to Trump and Trump is going to put a ban on all Muslims coming into the country nd could even deport people of Michigan! And he's tied at the hip with Netanyahu and The End of Days radical christians and don't forget Project 2025. I'm old (woman), not of the 3 Abrahamic faiths and despair at the stupidity of this action. It serves no one and makes our future much more vulnerable.
How are Americans supposed to stop Netenyahu?? Except indirectly through our government and our votes?? And how are they supposed to tell Arab nations to do anything? It's because of OUR government in the USA and ours ALONE that this genocide and it's previous decades of oppression have been made possible. WE finance Netenyahu and WE protect Israel in the UN.
We shouldn't single out religions - killing has been done in the name of every religion and ideaology. Sadly. And if you think protesting Bidens actions is stupid, give us an alternative...the truth is Biden and all the elite democrats would rather lose to trump than win under a progressive Democrat, like Bernie. Don't forget that democrats actually rigged the election so that Bernie would lose to Hillary. The status quo serves NO ONE. Biden isn't listening to his constituency - that's kind of the point of a democracy. Arab Americans are so mad they are willing to be deported and oppressed so that democrats know they cannot continue killing and cause injustice around the world, they HAVE to change their policies.
Hi Nida. I wasn't born into the 3 Abrahamic faiths. Two of them ... Islam and Christianity are the only two religions that believe in conversion or death. They have killed hundreds of millions of people from the 3rd faith for 2000+ years plus each other and all of us. It's been a blood bath and continues. When does this stop?
The rise of radical Islamic sects have been in many places in the past 50 years but are Muslims, who don't want their religion to do these things, been standing up? I don't see it. Look at Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, North African countries and others. Where are the protests and demands on the United Nations? Or even the governments of these countries?
When does radical islam stop? Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, El Shaba? Why now? Because of Bernie and HIllary? NOT connected! Biden wasn't my 1st or 2nd choice and I don't like all the present administration policies but he is NOT responsible for this. The Middle East has been an issue for over 2000+ years because all 3 faiths consider it their 'homeland'.
Given that people are angry, are people now standing up against radical Christian sects in Michigan who are delighted with what's happening and want it to grow into a global war? Or these same people who want to oppress women one more time?
"Arab Americans are so mad they are willing to be deported and oppressed so that democrats know they cannot continue killing and cause injustice around the world, they HAVE to change their policies." .... Are you kidding me? I don't believe you for one moment that Arab Americans (as distinct from Muslim Americans) are willing to be deported and oppressed. They would be much more oppressed in most Arab/Muslim countries!
Democrats aren't the 'killers' any more than (You name them!) Democrats are not the cause of global injustice ... keep your eyes on China/HongKong or all the other oppressive countries ... Russia and China are the biggest.
By doing this, you continue to open the door to trump and those who will impose a white christian conservative governance into all our life and into the '7 mountains of society'. Sinclair has control over 172 TV stations (40%+). Catholics buy up hospitals are refuse care to women's issues. Christians are buying up local newspapers. Trump put a ban on Muslims, separated families, and caged children. Were you standing up then?
We can all pick chaos but you make change by 'working towards' things and not 'fighting against'. You can be angry but trust me, in my 80 years there have been buckets of things to get angry at. Voting against Biden in this election is a vote for white christian nationalism and further chaos between these two 'converting' faiths.
Sorry. And thanks for your reply. I wish these 3 faiths would realize The Great Global Truths and act on them
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
Before 1917 Christians, Jews and Muslims lived in peace for 2,000 years because the Quran teaches Muslims to respect the “People of the Book” Jews and Christians. The Bible on the other hand, does not teach inclusion.
You're kidding me. There were periods where these 3 tied at the hips religions lived around one another. Humans have that capacity. If Islam was peaceful then anyone should be able to draw a picture of mohammed ... simple as that. And look at how so many are forced to live in muslim countries. And, the same is happening in the US via the rise of white christian supremacy and nationalism. I'm a Woman and I know the Truths.
I am not from these faiths and there is nothing appealing to me about their histories or even how they represent themselves to the rest of us.
I live by the Great Global Truths.
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
As they say: 'Actions speak louder than words"
But the point is the type of protest in Michigan and not a broader conversation.
And for the record I was standing up then. Protested with time and money and we showed up in droves to vote for Biden. My deep red district voted blue for the first time since I can remember. We voted for him because we all hoped he wasn't as power hungry as Trump - that he valued life, peace, and democracy! Look at him now - we were all so wrong.
Hi Nida. I'm sorry. I just don't get this fervor of dislike. Biden did not start this. There is 2000+ years of history. Sort that out. Biden cannot end this. If you don't 'like' what he is doing, then others cannot 'like' the aid to Ukraine, or they don't like that women have sexual/reproductive equality/or that books certain books shouldn't be read ... on and on.
You don't like his policies about this so protest but if you protest against this administration, you will be electing the trump one! It's that simple. There has never been a time like this. Project 2025 is what's next.
I'm 'angry' about lots of things I hate the killing. On Oct 7, a radical sect of Islam came across a border and killed a bunch of people just like hundreds of thousands are being killed everyday by the global violence. I would have preferred israel to go to the United Nations and demand action. I would prefer your groups go to the United Nations.
You have a choice ... you hold your nose and vote for a continuation of this administration or you are voting for trump's and if you want to see violence then be prepared. He cut a 'transactional deal' with white christian nationalists who have been working in Israel for decades to bring forth the End Times. Bush 2 talked about it .. The Axis of Evil. If you let trump into the WH, there will be a massive war in the ME. Actions have consequences.
I believe this action is a tiny step in the wrong direction. There are so many other ways to express your grieve and anger but remember when you just pick and choose then you do not see the Big Picture and the Big Picture are the 3 Abrahamic faiths that continue to bring Insanity into a world that needs to come together because we are ALL One Humanity, living on One Planet .... that we are destroying.
No one is asking Biden to solve the Israel Palestine conflict - no one is asking Israel not to respond to Hamas attacks. They dont even have to go to the UN they are fully justified to handle it themselves. The problem is and has always been HOW they responded. And how the U.S under Biden FULLY supported that response. That’s the problem, let’s keep the focus on the right thing. If you truly believe the ONLY response was dropping 2000lb unguided bombs and stopping water food and aid to a million people, or undressing people and executing them in sports fields, then you are mistaken. This is unique for warfare in the 21st century. To the point that the UN said there is plausible evidence even of genocide! The response was done without regard to humanitarian law. And if your response is “but Hamas” then you’re saying barbaric warfare is acceptable in the 21st century - we don’t need humanitarian law and anyone is justified to do whatever in war. And in that case, you are not ushering in an age of peace. We have nuclear weapons in a dozen plus countries around the world - if we don’t have some boundaries we are ALL in danger.
Israel SHOULD respond - and this wouldn’t even be a conversation if there was collateral damage as is normal for war. It would still be unfortunate and tragic, but it would be within the standard of wars. This isn’t. It is unique. And it’s not a fascist ragtag militant group doing this - it’s a democratic government with immense weapon capability. To support it without question IS something we as citizens should hold our leaders accountable to.
And you and I can disagree on whether someone should vote for Biden or not. But to excuse Biden and say “he didn’t start this conflict 2000 years ago” isn’t holding him accountable for the actions he and his administration DID take. They are clearly holding double standards by asking some countries to follow international law while blatantly ignoring others. He should be held accountable for that. You can absolutely decide that’s not an important issue and you still want him as your president, that’s fine, but don’t excuse him from accountability.
Also, please enlighten me, who are “my people”? I am completely fine with disagreements, discussions, but when you feel like you need to dig in to personal attacks and stereotyping on who you “think” I am based on a 200 character response on a message board, maybe look in the mirror. If your points are valid you don’t need to attack someone else, just tell me your opinion and let’s talk.
My opinion is that refusing to vote for Biden in November is suicide. Michael Moore is not recommending that. He is recommending that we put the pressure on Biden NOW because people who have already decided they won't vote for him in November are what scares us. That is my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, of course, but I fear Trump's return far more than anything else.
Also, everyone can disagree with anything their leaders do in a democracy. By me disagreeing with Biden’s position on Gaza it doesn’t mean no one else can disagree with his position on other issues. You can disagree and protest and boycott and if the leader won’t listen and change, and the issue matters to you, you can choose not vote for them. Right?
Trump is horrible, we are all terrified, but Biden should realize that too right? Why doesn’t he care about his own country and his grandchildren as much as we do? In a democracy aren’t the leaders supposed to listen to their constituency? 70% want the war to stop but Congress is sending more weapons and making boycott illegal??? What a disconnect. This time maybe it’s an issue that isn’t a make or break it for you, but what if next time it is? Do we reward that callous disregard for democracy with 4 more years ?? We aren’t asking him to solve anything, just stop giving weapons our tax dollars pay for to countries that won’t respect humanitarian law, he doesn’t even have to make them listen just stop being complicit. But we can’t even do that?? How is voting for him saving our country or our planet? I just cant… I understand and judge NO one for voting for Biden. I understand completely the fear of Trump. Trump will come for me first before anyone else. But I can’t vote for Biden. And it should be Biden’s job to earn our vote, not mine to stomach a president I can’t agree with.
It's apparent you don't know many people in the Christian or Muslim community. Conversion or death???? Where on earth did you gain this understanding that this is mainstream Christianity or Islam? Only the most extreme fringe minute minority of members of those faiths would say something like that and by doing so would be ignoring the rest of the tenants of their faith. And where do you get your news???? What did Syria do to abet genocide that their people should be protesting? There are protests in the Middle East all the time to break economic ties with Israel to pressure them to stop mistreating the Palestinians. When religion and power get mixed together the result has always been disastrous, but I would be hard pressed to find a more backward understanding of the world. If you really believe this, please meet some more people, consider travelling to these countries, and watch Arabic news (they have subtitles) so you can broaden your horizons. And look at history - you don't even have to look that far. ISIS? Born after the unfounded Iraq War, Taliban? Supported financially and trained by the US in the 70s. There are geopolitical histories to all of these fascist groups. The real enemy??? Isn't religion - if you want to attribute all bad things people who have a faith to their faith you also have to attribute all the good they do. The real enemy is humanity's unquenchable desire for power. Most of us don't succumb to it, many BECAUSE of their dedication to their faith, but those who do want power are breaking this world apart. And making us believe that other things are the cause so we can be distracted. Don't fall for it.
hi Nida. Islam and Christianity are the only two religions that believe you must follow their book or they have the right to kill you. It's always been that way. You can say: 'Oh, that's only some small sects'. In present Muslim countries, women are deeply oppressed. You know that. White christian nationalists in the US want women to be deeply oppressed. You know this. You know that these two religions brutalized Jews for that whole 2000+ years and now, not my wish, they have decided to join the Insanity.
None of what you say is the point! You/your groups have decided that this one action ... not vote for Biden ... is the best protest. I disagree. I think it's foolish, could result in trump being elected and Project 2025 implemented and a bigger war in the ME. Protest. It's this protest that makes absolutely ZERO sense to me.
We can agree to disagree on the best way to protest. If we continue to protest your way and the government doesn’t listen, then what? What’s the next step? What do you do if the system is so deeply corrupted and tainted with money that they are not incentivized to listen to their constituency ? Genuine question.
Also, I am not an expert on Christianity, so I can’t speak to that. But I can say that your opinion of Islam and your portrayal that these tenets are mainstream is completely false. There are examples In history where islamic governments didn’t force convert people. If you want sources I’ll provide them. all religious texts have controversial lines that need to be put in to context , and Shouldn’t be misconstrued in their most negative light.
it is unfair to portray religions by a concept only believed by extremists .
If Islam and Christianity had never been brought to the earth, do you really think we would have peace and nothing bad would ever happen? Or if we had no religion? Conflicts over land and resources happened before Christianity too.
Greetings again. You do whatever you want. It makes no sense and won't ever make sense to me. And then there's the 1,2,3 skip a few 99,100. Whatever way you choose to protest this one issue is your choice and it has zero to do with 'deeply corrupted and tainted money' ... In reality, either everything is tainted with 'dark money' due to decisions from the Supreme Court, or it's cynical to always assume that it's dark money ... either way ... we have ZERO control over that and has zero to do with your decision to not vote for Biden. You think trump isn't funded by dark money? Saudi gave jared billions of $!
Nonsense about Islam. Even Hamas 'river to the sea' is about getting rid of anyone who is not muslim. Take a look at all the conservative muslim countries. They live via religious oppression. Conservative 'sects' believe in word for word of their 'book'. Goodness, if a person draws a picture of X then muslims believe that person can be killed. Come on. If a religion can have extremists then the foundation of that religion is extreme. This issue in Israel is about religion. The whole West Bank settlers are about oppression by radical jewish people against people in the West Bank. The history continues and will continue. The issue is there.
War, violence, oppression exist because people believe in their superiority. But this has nothing to do with the type of protest you support. Normally, I won't care one way or another. I care because of the alternative. If Biden loses, we get trump. If we get trump, we get Project 2025 and if you don't know about that then become informed.
For me, I'm content that I was not brought up in the 3 Abrahamic faiths. I do not see our present world benefiting from religious extremism ... even what is happening now in India. We are destructive to other humans and for what?
There is really not much else to talk about. You'll do whatever you want and I'll continue to say that not voting for Biden is voting for trump and 'they' (white christian radicals) win.
Yes, White Christian nationalists want women to be deeply oppressed. Do they believe they have the right to kill people for not being Christian? I don't know. But most Christians I have known over a long period of time don't believe that, and it's not in their holy book, either.
Hi Tim. Time is a long stretch. It's only recently that we now see the World as Global. We've moved across the globe. Conquest has existed throughout Time. We've tended to see ourselves as 'humans' and others as 'different/other' and therefore, we've killed one another.
When Europeans were Colonizing the world, it was the catholic faith (Protestants didn't exist yet). They used a Doctrine of Discovery 1493... a Papal Edict that focused on Colonizing Africa and The Americas. This gave Spanish and Portuguese the 'right' to kill, loot and enslave others and did so. But it didn't start there.
In the US, the rise of militant christians is on the rise.
The people of Michigan stopping Netanyahu? That's the president's job, and instead he hugs the Trump of Tel Aviv and circumvents Congress to send munitions to kill tens of thousands of innocents. And stop with the relativism. Biden's immigration policies are merely extensions of Trump's , and Biden has deported and incarcerated far more migrants than Trump. Now he wants to shut down the southern border. You are citing a Muslim ban of Trump's and yet have no outrage about Biden's expansion of Trump's Title 42 nor his administrations denial that migrants were being whipped at the southern border when it's on video for all to see!
Yup Barry ... stop Netanyahu! Go to the United Nations and sit on the doorstep until they take action. Yup, go over to the ME and make a human chain that stops Israel. Then knock down the walls that stop Palestinians from leaving because none of the Muslim/Arab countries want them. Yup, stand up and work toward positive change in the ME. And just wait until you elect trump and Project 2025 into the WH. There are some times when 'suck it up' and 'do other things' is common sense. There are SO many things that can be done but this act is what's called a 'lazyman's action'. It's blaming one person and one administration for something that continues after 2000+ years and has to do with 'religious' beliefs and not politics. Hamas did not go into Israel for 'politics' they did it for 'religion'. I'm not outraged with the present administration about the border ... I'm outraged at the GOP in Congress! Aren't you?
Humans are destroying themselves and our waters,soils, airs, species and each other. Focus on a Great Renewal and The Global Truths
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
I can be outraged at the Republicans and Biden's inhumanity and racism at the same time. Biden has circumvented Congress twice to send hundreds of millions in munitions to Israel and is asking for $14 billion more. Does he HAVE to do that? Perhaps if he said no more weapons, no more munitions and no more protection in the UN Netanyahu might think twice. I agree with your statement on humanity, yet in your protection of Biden's direct and inexcusable actions you are participating in the US empire's International Division of Humanity. You should be outraged at Biden because he is doing THE SAME THINGS Trump has been doing regarding border policy. It's called critical thinking and morality, but instead you're playing politics to protect a racist who has done more harm in his career than Trump!
Hi Barry. That's not how I see it. I am outraged by so many things that are endangering our Humanity, Waters, Airs, Soils, Species, Planet, each Other. How do you pick and choose? You decided to 'choose' this one. Fine. It's the actions ... don't vote for Biden ... that I object to because it will put trump into the WH and Project 2025 ... you ain't seen nothing yet if you think or believe in morality, critical thinking etc. The Embassy was moved because white christian nationalists wanted it moved as a step closer to the End Times ... War in the ME. They side with Netanyahu as does trump. They side with Russia because 'it's the last white christian nation'. The Abraham Accord was created with Israel and Saudi but not the Palestinans. No Arab/Muslim country wants the Palestinians ... I don't understand that but there is 2000+ history of Insanity.
This is your issue. How you want to express it doesn't sit well with me. I didn't like it when Feminists said: "All men are potential rapists' or 'if women ruled the world there would be peace'.
And what a Fking laugh that biden is more a racist and done more harm than trump! That's unreal and so ignorant that it's shameful! But it shows something about you. You are outraged because you want trump in the white house and I don't.
The voters of Michigan should be careful of what they ask. If, somehow, we are cursed with the second coronation of T****, they will have to shoulder a good portion of the blame. I hold out hope that the people of my home state are not that stupid. I will have to put my faith in the army of grandfathers who will not allow T**** to get anywhere near the Oval Office.
Give us an alternative - PLEASE Americans are literally bleeding for an alternative. Stop blaming voters, democrats did this to themselves. When Bernie was the Democrat Americans wanted DEMOCRATS
SHUT HIM DOWN. The most powerful nation in the world gets these two bozo options???? Thats the best we can do??? It's like the Democrats did this on purpose - and now when Biden clearly has memory issues they aren't even asking him to step down. Give us an alternative. Arab Americans are ok to be blamed, oppressed, and even deported but there's got to be a red line somewhere. If abetting genocide isn’t, what’s your red line? Wheres our humanity ? Old white men, the army of grandfathers, nothing bad will happen to them under Trump, but Arab Americans and progressives who say enough is enough - the worst will happen to them. They are willing to be oppressed for the hope of a better tomorrow even if it’s decades down the road and they don’t get to see it. Call it stupid if you want - the alternative is cowardly.
It's not the 'old white men' I'm worried about. It's their grandchildren, and I cannot stand by and allow them to be subjected to a life under T****. No. Matter. What. He must be defeated, and his MAGA supporters removed from office.
I hate Trump - let me make that clear. But please tell me how a vote for Biden stops MAGA? Biden hasn’t preserved democracy in the last 4 years. He’s not doing anything to protect us. didn't overturn citizens united, didn’t try to codify the things democrats care about, and isn’t stopping the military industrial complex. Do we really think Trump and those like him are just going to give up politics if Biden wins this year? Democrats failed us during Obama when they owned the house and senate and literally passed nothing . They failed us with Hillary by not allowing Bernie a fair chance. And they are failing us with Biden by not making him step down. They cannot defeat MAGA - and I’m starting think they don’t want to. Unless they start listening to US and not their donors and foreign interests - sorry to break it to you but we’ve already lost to MAGA.
Enough votes for Biden can stop MAGA by keeping them out of power. Biden can't do everything by himself, but we hope by putting the pressure on him that we can help stop the slaughter in Gaza.
While walking for Bernie, knocking on hundreds of doors of infrequent voters, I came to the conclusion that your vote is your voice. A vote for Biden says that you like him and want him to be your president. It does not mean that you dislike the other guy. Perhaps in the general election you should vote strategically. The primaries are where you can have your voice heard. I would suggest that instead of voting "uncommitted" that people vote for a third party candidate. This is saying what you actually prefer, and not what you might be afraid of.
I agree with your assessment wholeheartedly. But we must understand that people don't want to look through this door and only see darkness. As a student of comedy improv (a very beginner!) I feel that it's essential to see the darkness, and then light a candle. (Yes...and!) Maybe hold hands.
The fact that you don't write out Trump's name shows how brainwashed you are, just like the T**** supporters you love to hate. Perhaps you don't realize it, but Trump's immigration policies have been almost exactly the same as Trump's and he has deported and incarcerated far more migrants than Trump (and now he is threatening to close the border, where's your outrage?). And what precisely would be worse than aiding and abetting a genocide? Perhaps you are willing to participate in the International Division of Humanity that is destabilizing the world, but many of us do not see it leading to anything but perpetual war and nuclear confrontation.
You fail to see the one difference that rises above all others: T****'s purpose is to destroy our democracy. Nothing else matters. He, and the Republicans who support him, must be defeated, at the ballot box if possible. Better candidates could be found, but at this juncture, we don't have time to convince the imbeciles who support him: they cannot be reasoned with. And blaming Biden for Netenyahu's actions is wrong.
For those who want to blame Michiganders, look in the mirror. Because they are no more to blame than you are. This is the action of our government. And it’s horrifically apparent now that there is no foundational difference between the Ds and the Rs. Because both will engage in slaughter if it serves their end games.
If the DNC wakes up, there is time for a better person to be raised up. The real problem is AIPAC is so deeply embedded in our political system that there’s no one who will be raised up that isn’t compromised.
AIPAC should be ruled a foreign agent and banned from campaign contributions.
I wish the Wiki page about the "2025 Project" were required reading for every American. I had never heard about it until now, so I had to look it up. Shame on anybody included in a list with Stephen Miller, the Latter Day Joseph Goebbels.
At this point, a vote for any Republican is a vote for a Nazi America. I have always been an Independent voter, because I don't like our two-party monopoly. Right now, I believe that life-long Repuplicans must step up and reject the morphing of their party into a Neo-Nazi nightmare. The "2024 Project" is to vote for people who don't dishonor the sacrifices made by people who died fighting fascism in WW2. And don't let Trump become the AntiChrist... America can do better.
We can choose to do better. Yah, Biden, so can you.
We need to show up in the congressional primaries in droves to support those who are against the grain. You are so right the 2 party system serves no one and it's never been more apparent than now
Biden has helped to expose the amorality and hypocrisy of American empire for all to see. He is part of the problem that ushered in the era of Trump, not a remedy for it. Biden has been a dyed-in-the-wool racist his entire career, from segregated busing to his 1994 Crime Bill to his decades long support for the Hyde Amendment to all of his actions in foreign policy and apparently liberals love him for it. He has caused more tangible harm to black and brown people here at home and around the world than Republicans have, and that's no praise for Republicans. He is a Zionist through and through and does not see the Palestinian people as human, and neither does his Trumpaphobic base.
"Donald Trump is making a list of all the people he's going to punish and get revenge on. He is thinking about all the institutions in our society he is going to destroy. There's nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal. To my eyes, Donald Trump was always an animal — but now he's a wounded animal. Too many Americans — including people in the news media and in politics who should know better — are not comprehending the scale of Trump's revenge. If Trump gets back in power heads are going to roll. There are so many people who are going to be in harm's way. People better wake up and stop being in denial." - Dr. John Gartner, psychologist and former professor at the Johns Hopkins University Medical School.
Biden may be part of the problem. Trump will come for your family, wanna-be revolutionary boy.
They're already coming, my cousin got fired from her teaching position for posting in defense of the Palestinian people on social media. I know who Trump is and I know who Biden is. Biden has come for hundreds of thousands of families overseas, from Iraq to Libya to Afghanistan to Palestine. Trumpaphobia is an illness that prevents proper diagnosis of the core issue. You can send your band-aids to the 30,000 killed and 100,000 wounded in Gaza, or those in Ukraine for that matter. The American empire will kill you if you are deemed obsolete.
Absolutely - people can make fun of "revolutionaries" but we are saying and doing what you are too scared to do - the truth is obvious, Biden isn't a lesser of two evils. He's an evil and Trump is a different evil. We can keep being scared and accepting the status quo but how does anyone think that by electing Biden we solve anything? What Trump is going to disappear ? Trump-like candidates won’t ever run again? Are we kicking a can down the road for four years and thinking we solved something?? This is a broken system - if democrats want to win Biden needs to step down. They need to listen to their constituency. And republicans need to get their damn heads out of the sand and take back their party instead of bowing to trump. They need to stop voting republican no matter what because they are so scared of abortion or trans bathrooms or whatever nonsense.
Also everyone show up to congressional primaries and for your local elections - if you never got in politics before now is the time. we need some representation in congress and some sane local government to protect us from whoever gets in the white house
I was born and raised in Michigan (Dearborn) and have lived here in Georgia for nearly 40 years now. Understand that Biden won GA's 16 electors in 2020, but it's going to return to red this year. The odds are high that AZ's 11 votes will go red too. That' leaves a state like Michigan as the deciding factor.
No - that's not true. If we want to engage in barbarism to defeat barbarism please don't be so naive to imagine we will get peace. Barbarian acts lead to radicalism. It will further radicalized and destabilize the middle east, please don't be foolish. If hamas is eliminated by bombing and starving a million people then a new group will form worse than them, made up of orphans suffering a life of PTSD. A permanent ceasefire is absolutely necessary right now
And impossible with Netenyahu in power. Israel is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis tried to do to the Jews. Years of oppression will not be forgotten.
Doing nothing didn't work; allowing so many (pro-Hamas/anti-Israeli) hateful/lesser intelligent beings to misrepresent the facts & cause harm didn't work. Allowing misguided fools to call for a futile 2-state solution didn't work. Hoping for world peace that will not come in anyone's lifetime won't work.....so, what is YOUR solution?
Hamas would not exist if it were not for the atrocities Israel has been committing against Palestinians for DECADES. Hamas is a militant RESPONSE to the horrific and barbaric (thank you, Nida) treatment Palestinians (AND Lebanese) have endured at the hands of Israel for DECADES.
Israel needs to be expelled from Palestinian Territories for good.
You, and many others, refuse 'to see the whole picture. The Jewish people, have been victimized for centuries., being chased out of one country, returning,, settling elsewhere, being banned from pursuing our religion, demonized, being killed, etc.
In this case, - the beginnings of this tale, in this area, had one group try to run off. Since many believe Israel was the Jewish home and others do not, it's useless to argue the point.
Hamas - a group of misguided, violent, murderous life forms who find honor in killing an entire group of people, and therefore, have no connection to humanity, have been dishonorable in their pursuit of eliminating Israel.
Hamas attacks first. Hamas goes through men, women, children & babies to pursue its goal. Hamas goes through Israelis,. Americans, Palestinians, etc. to pursue its goal. Hamas are ray pests, and they use babies and others as shields. Hamas never kept up a cease fire. They cont9inually have broken any truce. Israel is the only free nation in the middle East.
Everything in paragraphs 2 and 3 are lies, propaganda, misconceptions, and there’s some gaslighting in there, too…insert “Israel” wherever you have written “Hamas” and you’ll have it about right. And it’s not a “free nation”…what a joke. Talk to those Israelis who go against the fascist Netanyahu regime.
I've been following Israel since 1972. How long have you involved yourself with this country? I'm astounded how blind you are. Have you been to Israel? I have. Have you seen the hate against various groups of people by other people. Hatred has been around for longer than I've been on Earth.. Much is based on blind ignorance.
You support monsters who have shouted their goal to eliminate Israel. As if killing many who did nothing was a glorious thing. What does that make YOU? Israel leaders are sick and tired of decades of this nonsense by monsters. Hamas has never demonstrated honor. If you deny the witnesses statements of the freed hostages who support Israel, then you have been brainwashed.
Have been following the situation only 7 years less…1979.
I have not been to Israel but have had many Palestinian and Lebanese friends over the years.
From Palestinian friends, I first learned of the horrific prisons where the Israelis picked up people off the street and imprisoned them for years while subjecting them to torture. These people were not involved in any crimes but they were held for years, sometimes several times over, without a judicial process.
Each time over the last 5 decades that the Israelis have invaded - whether in Palestine or Lebanon - they have killed 10-, 20-, and 30-fold of civilians compared to the deaths of their civilians.
My Lebanese friends lived in Beirut during the Israeli occupation and described being stopped, questioned and threatened at Israeli checkpoints incessantly. One of them was in their home when an Israeli rocket hit the apartment above their dining room. And another time when one hit their bedroom when they weren’t in it. They frequently had to retreat to the basement when Israel launched missiles.
They described the Israelis entering refugee camps at night and gunning down hundreds of people at a time.
You, like the Israeli propagandists, want to talk about your feeling so threatened as though that justifies the wholesale slaughter of thousands of men, women and children.
I do not deny the Holocaust.
But Israelis deny that they are recreating the Holocaust on an entire population.
Israel is and has been for decades an illegal occupier of Palestinian Territories. As an illegal occupier, intl law says they have ZERO right to defend themselves.
Go make yourself feel better about this genocide. But it’s a genocide nonetheless.
The world witnessed, prior to October, a process of normalization by Israel and many powerful Arab states. We know that Iran would have none of this and has been supporting Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organization in a bid for control in the region. We now know that Netanyahu allowed Hamas to exist by allowing money to pass to Gaza for years prior to the October war, thinking that he was buying them off. He was outsmarted and now we will have an entirely new generation of Palestinians who hate the Jews and feel justified when Jews are killed by terrorist acts. So much for normalization.
My problem with your premise and the premise of voters who might hold back their vote for Biden in 2024 is that you assume that Biden has the power to dictate to Netanyahu how to conduct his policy toward Gaza and the Palestinians.
I believe in Biden and his people. I believe that, unlike arrogant Hillary, he will listen to his people on the ground in Michigan and figure out a way to reach out to all sides to get the Israeli hostages back, to get both sides to agree to a cease fire, and to start the process of creating a Palestinian state that has the ability to sustain itself.
But even if a cease fire is achieved, peace in Gaza can never assured as Hamas has beat the Palestinian Authority before, partly due to internal corruption, partlty due to support of Hamas by Iran, and other Arab states in the region. If the Palestinian Authority can be resurrected, there is no guarantee without a lot of cooperation and engagement by Arab states in the region and the West that the same thing will not happen again. There has to be some intermediary body composed of nations (like England, the US, Germany, and so on who have influence in the region and powerful countries in the region (like Saudi Arabia) to be serious about maintaining peace and building an infrastructure that will be enduring.
The case has to be made to right leaning American Jews that the equation of an eye for an eye has been satisfied (2K Israelis killed, maimed, tortured, and raped against the over 50K Palestinians that have been killed and maimed, entire communities destroyed). Enough is enough. But making that case to people that I know in the US is not as easy as it sounds. There is a political reality here that comes into play. I have to hope that Biden's people have their work cut out for them. We can all yell and scream at Biden, but he is not the culprit here. People in the entertainment love their causes, but for all the money that they have raised and the awareness of unfairness and cruelty, the world is not much better off or safer. Now, it seems less safe, less fair, and authoritarian regimes seem to be winning as fear of diversity become the major issue.
We have seen what happened with the bi-partisan border bill. The most conservative Republicans got much of what they wanted in a very serious bill that was DOA in the House, not on its merits but because Trump does want Biden to chalk up another victory in his bid to restore America to its former greatness as the leading world power in the West. It is this same kind of stalemate that exists around the issue of Gaza, the long and terrible history since the State of Israel was established in 1948.
I know your heart is in the right place, but I fail to see that demonstrations in Michigan and warnings from voters that they may not vote in 2024 is going to do anything more than mobilizing Biden's damage control people to try to find a solution that satisfies enough people to get him elected, save our democracy, prevent millions of people from diverse backgrounds from being deported, prevent authoritarian regimes like that of Netanyahu, Putin, and so on to persist. Biden has shown that his heart is in the right place giving aid and comfort to millions of Americans who simply want to share the America dream in a very toxic environment BECAUSE people who know Biden trust him and know that he is honestly looking for solutions.
There has to be an adult in the room. If it is you, then I believe you need to rachet down the rhetoric and come up with real solutions to the complex issues around Gaza, the Palestinians, the Israelis, and the two million Israelis living in the settlements.
My final word is that I believe the only hope is that men of goodwill, include the Saudis who do see an advantage in normalizing relations with Israel, will work quietly in the background to craft solutions that not only address the current situation, which is not acceptable to anyone, which stops the killing by the Israelis, get the hostages back, and begins the long and arduous process of establishing a Palestinian state. One important part of that solution is the commitment by all nations involved of billions of dollars of aid to the Palestinians to build a stable infrastruction a military presence to prevent Hamas from gaining control.
One important thing to remember is that before the October attack, 65% of the people who lived in Gaza were receiving humanitarian aid. That means the 65% of the people of Gaza did not have enough food and water to survive on their own. Why, one must ask the Arab American community were th three current leaders of Hamas able to amass fortunes of $11 billion dollars while the majority of their people were starving? It is easy to decry the brutal policies of Israeli military engagement currently being practiced in Gaza, but the end result is not a solution.
There are only a few news sources that I trust totally (you, Heather Cox Richardson, Rachel Maddow (but I cannot watch her because I get too upset about the particular issue she is reporting on -- on the advice of my doctor, I need to limit the time I spend with cable news).
I listened to your podcast, and I agree that what you say. However, I have a few things to say in response.
I have my doubts that Biden has the power to stop the killing. He and Netanyahu are not buddies as you would have us believe. I trust that Biden's people will not make the same mistake that Hillary Clinton made when Donna Brazille, the chairman called her and asked for additional funds for the rust belt states and Clinton refused saying "our computer models tell us we are just fine." Such arrogance! Brazille said she got off the phone and cried because she knew that Hillary would lose the election.
I do not have the same fear that Biden's people are not aware of the issue with Israel and the people of Gaza and hope that they will heed the warning signs that Biden must find a way to walk a very difficult tightrope between hard-line Jews in America and most everyone else.
It is most important for Arab Americans, Jewish Americans, and everybody else not supporting Trump that Trump is evicerated in 2024 and a blue sunami will take back the Houseand prtovide a comfortable majority. No less than 20 moderate Republicans -- some are committee chairpeople -- have had enough and will not run. There is a serious lack of money in the Republican war chests at the local, state, and at the RNC. New issues that effect not only women's reproductive rights but the ability to have a family via invitro will help Democrats to keep the Senate, and for Biden to win the electoral vote by a wide margin.
However, there are some facts that need to be mentioned.
First, we all know that the reason Netanyahu remains in power is because there are over two million Israeli settlers that make up one third of the population of Israel. That is a powerful and overwhelming block of potential voters who think nothing of actually attacking Palestinians.
Netanyahu is a virtual dictator and has enough support to stay in power and has stacked the Israeli Supreme Court. Only a few key members of the Israeli government need to switch sides in order for there to be a new government formed, but that has not happened yet, and given the carnage in Gaza, if it has not happened by now, it will not happen anytime in the near future. Like Putin, Netanyahu is hoping for a Trump win in November.
The three top leaders of Hamas live in luxury in Qatar and are worth $11 billion dollars, money that could be spent to help the Palestinians in Gaza but is not and never will be. Until the world leaders force these three top Hamas leaders too spend that money building infrastructure in Gaza, give up their insistence that Israel does not have a right to exist, and would, if it had the means and the opportunity commit genocide on the Israelis, there will never be peace.
Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations have realized that there is more money and the ability to finally have lasting peace in the region by normalizing relations with Israel. The Saudis want to be the China of the region and see the future much differently than Palestinians who live in terrible conditions in places like Gaza.
However, the powers that be who are benefitting financially from the continual wars in the Middle East, not only with Israel, but with each other, will never give up their position on the total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel. The other problem is that the Palestinian Authority in Gaza went head to head with Hamas and lost for lots of reasons including their own corruption. The bottom-line is that for many in power in the Middle East, it is simply a business. Follow the money and it becomes obvious that the average person living in the MIddle East wants peace and a good life for themselves and their children. But the powers that be will never allow this to happen. Tjhe Arab Americans who are horrified at the carnage in Gaza at the hands of the Israeli army also need to consider that the Palestinians themselves were at war with each other and the bad guys won.
Also, prior to the October war 65% of Palestinians in Gaza required humitarian aid. [I refer to it as a "war" but it seems more like, as you point out in your podcast, an extermination by Netanyahu of Palestinians, a non-solution that will keep Israel at war with the people of Gaza, Hamas, and even people who would like to see a Palestinian state emerge.
I liked these comments from Robert B. Hubbell's blog:
A comment about the Michigan primary on Tuesday
Some Democratic leaders in Michigan are urging Democrats to vote “uncommitted” in the upcoming primary to signal their disapproval of President Biden’s continued support for Israel in its war against Hamas. (In particular, they want Biden to call for an unconditional cease-fire and to suspend military support for Israel until that happens. See USA Today, Rep. Rashida Tlaib urges Michigan Democrats to vote 'uncommitted' in protest against Biden.
A common question I get from readers is how to talk to younger family members about supporting Joe Biden given strongly held views about the war in Gaza. One reader sent a link to post that included a post by Stephen Miller on Truth Social about Trump's Project 2025. The link shows Trump's plan to systematically exclude, interrogate, and deport Muslim and Arab Americans, students, and refugees.
Stephen Miller begins with this note: “Ladies and gentlemen, It doesn’t get any better than this,” and then describes “Trump's plan to keep jihadists and their sympathizers out of America.”
Stephen Miller then lists the elements of Project 2025 that are directed to “jihadists and sympathizers” as follows:
Reinstate and Expand Trump Travel Ban on Entry From Terror-Plagued Countries, Territories, and Places.
Reimplement a Full Suspension of State Dept Refugee Resettlement (this include Gazan refugees).
Implement Strong Ideological Screening for All Immigrants to the United States—Sympathy for Jihadists, Hamas, or Hamas Ideology Will Be Automatically Disqualifying.
Aggressively Deport Resident Aliens With Jihadist Sympathies
Revoke the Student Visas of Radical Anti-American and Anti-Semitic Foreigners at Colleges and Universities.
Proactively Send ICE to Pro-Jihadist Demonstrations to Enforce Our Immigration Laws and Remove the Violators From Our Country.
Continue and Expand Denaturalization of Criminals, Terrorists, and Immigration Cheats.
Invoke the Alien Enemies Act to Accelerate Domestic Deportations
We witnessed in 2017 how Trump's “Muslim ban” worked in practice—it effectively shut down travel from eleven Muslim-majority nations into the US. One of Joe Biden’s first acts was to reverse those travel restrictions. See NPR (3/6/2021), Biden Has Overturned Trump's 'Muslim Travel Ban.' Activists Say That's Not Enough.
As one Muslim leader (of Emerge Action) said at the time,
The Muslim communities are thrilled that [Biden] upheld his promise to our community, but we need to recognize that more needs to be done, specifically through congressional action, to ensure that no future administration can abuse the presidential authorities we saw Donald Trump abuse.
Bringing political pressure to bear on President Biden is understandable and fair. But within that political struggle over policy, we must ensure that Trump does not regain the Oval Office—otherwise, he will not only reinstitute his “Muslim ban,” but he will take dozens of other steps to discriminate against Muslim and Arab Americans, students, and refugees.
H.L. Mencken writing on American democracy compared it to a man who when faced with a banquet table turned away to eat grubs from the floor. In a similar vein witness Joe Biden: after a mostly mediocre political life he is gifted with the Presidency, the hero who slew Trump. Seventy seven years old, his career safely behind him, he has the opportunity of greatness! Does he shake off the shackles of Corporate Dems careerist timidity, prepare for the transition he promised, do the big things with courage? No! He turns from the banquet table and runs to embrace his shallow ego that needs re-election validation and then literally runs to Israel to embrace a tin horn money grubbing dictator wannabe who’s flushing any pretense of morality down the shithole and taking American democracy with him. Voting uncommitted is a gentle kindness to Biden, he needs to be bid farewell and sent ti his rocking chair where he can reflect on all he and we have lost.
Hi Nida. I read your passion and not certain how to respond or what to say. Presently, the US is biggly funding Ukraine and Israel/Hamas. From what you are saying is that funding both of these isn't what you favor. Complex. Killing others or funding others to kill others is very complex.
The killing of other human beings is so common that it's expected and mostly ignored.
While all the killing of each other is the Insanity, how does that match up to our killing our Planet? I don't know. That's my freak-out and I have no idea how to be effective in changing that.
You've now said it 'I won't vote for Biden" ... and all of xtrump's supporters are applauding you. They want you doing this. They don't care what 'This' is? They are using lots of 'This' to peel off people like you. They just want you and others NOT to vote for Biden.
When covid started, I was at home in New Zealand. I caught the first variety, spent months recovering and mostly focused on how Asian was responding. A year later, I sat down with a friend. We wrote down everything we had heard (no judgment ... only 'what have you heard/read'). it ws 3 pages, single-spaced at 12 font. I'd never experienced anything in my 80 years that had such a Litany.
Your response is like that. There are lots of factors. There are a huge number of factors. you've put them together in a certain manner. Even another person who puts the same information together might not come up with the same type of protest.
All I've done is to give you the 1 reason that not voting for Biden may be a vote for xrump. What you are doing is talking points for the xrump campaign. In other words, you're not protesting 'Inhumanity' and "insanity". You're doing a political action that may benefit the other political group ... in a 2 group system. That's the choice when there are so many choices to protest Human's Inhumanity to Other Humans.
Mike, you speak of 'protecting our Jewish brethren' but, considering history still within living memory, can you or anyone blame them if they no longer trust us to do that? Maybe they never will again? This is war, not genocide. Hamas deliberately used, and is still using, the Gazans as human shields and an alarming percentage of THEM are OK with that! Some speak still of visiting more October days on Israel! And how many Arab/Muslim Wolverines, secretly or openly, WANT to give Hamas the victory they seek with such a ceasefire and then finish the Shoah sooner or later? I wonder, myself.
Because Bibi will never agree to such a ceasefire. Do these Wolverines hope we will, once Bibi tells us to get lost, switch sides and make war on Israel? I wouldn't be too surprised if they do. Such an ultimatum from Biden to Netanyahu would only be spat upon, we would lose much (at least) of our influence with Israel AND, here, we would lose how many Jewish funders and foot-soldiers?
That actually might be an even surer way of ensuring Trump's return this fall and probably start to kill democracy around the world. I'm sorry to see these people between a rock and a hard place, but if they know what's good for them AND the rest of the world besides, they'll transcend their personal wounds, take some good long looks around, maybe swallow hard, and stay with Biden in the knowledge and understanding that the Democrats are the only way out of Trumpian darkness for all of us in this planet!
Not to mention how strengthened Netanyahoo would be at home by his defiance of us! Has anyone thought of that yet?
If Hamas was hiding in Israel, using Israelis as human sheilds, hiding in tunnels under Israeli hospitals, would Israel have done the same thing? Would they have shut of water power and electricity to Israeli citizens? Starved them? Prevented aid from going in? Bombed all the hospitals to get rid of Hamas? We all know they wouldn't. They didn't go about this war in a way that valued any innocent citizens life. Not even babies in incubators. This is clear, and unjustifiable. It’s not a war. It’s more than that.
What do you think the US objective should be? Save certain faiths around the world regardless of the costs to anyone else? If so, please know you won't ever get peace. For anyone. If you think justice should be the objective - then your narrative falls apart because you need to take it in account oct 6, oct 5 and every day prior for the last 50+ years. You need to take in to account child arrests and deaths that occurred before Hamas was created, you need to take in to account illegal settlements that threw people from their homes and bulldozed building with people including activists from around the world before Hamas was created. If it’s support economic interests at all costs then sadly, again - this doesn’t end in peace for anyone.
They would never have been ABLE to hide like that in Israel, so your starting premise is a LIE! And it never, never, NEVER would have occurred to Israelis to use civilians as human shields! Start with THAT! Furthermore, the idea that we would 'save certain faiths' around the world is a dead giveaway to your Islamonazi being! In two ways, no less! First, you speak of 'certain faiths', betraying you believe the lie that Jews are ONLY distinguished by religion! No dice, dear! They are also a NATION and a PEOPLE! Second, by asking whether we should do that, you betray your frustration y'all haven't been able to finish what Hitler pushed forward, that the JOOS, of all people, keep on beating y'all Great Warriors on the fields of battle!
Well, take your frustration, your lying and your deliberate ignorance and STUFF IT!
Like when? Give me particulars that I can check and I will believe. Btw, I don't like Bibi or his government either. I don't favor one state in the land one way or t'other. I even agree with you about the perils of ignoring history, although I suspect the histories each of us know are missing a few truths. I will repair to this Israeli Center for Human Rights and see what I can find.
I have no problem learning something new about history - but I do think to have a discussion we need to both be interested in peace - and as trusted agents of peace we have to agree that members of all faith groups, cultures, and identities deserve an equal right to peace. Both Hamas and Bibi’s right wing government are not agents of peace. And without peace we will all lose. Even those of us who don’t live in that region. We all pay for the destabilization of a region in a globalized world.
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There is an article by the Red Cross about the IDF using human sheilds, Stanford Law has an article which talks about the use of human shields in warfare in general and cites Israel as an example, the Israel Human RightsYearbook has an article on this, the Israel Supreme Court ruled it was unlawful for the IDF to use human shields which means they were engaging in this practice. Even after the ruling that it was unlawful to use Palestinians as human shields cases continued to be brought of incidences where this was still happening.
Oh here’s another Israeli apologist and/or AIPAC troll. ISRAEL IS THE ENTITY that uses Palestinian civilians as human shields. Not the other way around.
Israel was given the gift of PALESTINIANS’ lands in 1948. Not the other way around. And they’ve been punishing the people who fought against the loss of their property, their homes, their farmlands, their livelihoods, ever since.
As it describes Arab/Muslim, policy in the seventh to tenth centuries and Ottoman policy in the fourteenth to at least the seventeenth century. Their legacies are with us still too. I mean, how DID North Africa and Mesopotamia get to be 'Arab'? Why, by conquest and colonization, that's how! Now what was that about skipping out on world history classes again?
What if people of Michigan had turned their attention to Netanyahu to stop him? Or to the Muslim and Arab countries that won't help the Palestinians? What if people of Michigan had turned their attention to the radical religioius sects (both christian and muslim) who believe in killing (and have for 2000+ years). How many millions upon millions have been killed for 2000+ years and recently because of radical islamic sects and NOW white christian nationalists have been planning to bring forth the End Times using Israel? They had trump move the Embassy to Jerusalem as one step closer and working with Russia as 'the last white christian country.. Why are they not up in arms about those things? And why didn't the people of Michigan put pressure on the United Nations to step in? There are SO many things the people of Michigan could be doing other than what they have 'chosen' to do. By going after Biden, then open the door to Trump and Trump is going to put a ban on all Muslims coming into the country nd could even deport people of Michigan! And he's tied at the hip with Netanyahu and The End of Days radical christians and don't forget Project 2025. I'm old (woman), not of the 3 Abrahamic faiths and despair at the stupidity of this action. It serves no one and makes our future much more vulnerable.
How are Americans supposed to stop Netenyahu?? Except indirectly through our government and our votes?? And how are they supposed to tell Arab nations to do anything? It's because of OUR government in the USA and ours ALONE that this genocide and it's previous decades of oppression have been made possible. WE finance Netenyahu and WE protect Israel in the UN.
We shouldn't single out religions - killing has been done in the name of every religion and ideaology. Sadly. And if you think protesting Bidens actions is stupid, give us an alternative...the truth is Biden and all the elite democrats would rather lose to trump than win under a progressive Democrat, like Bernie. Don't forget that democrats actually rigged the election so that Bernie would lose to Hillary. The status quo serves NO ONE. Biden isn't listening to his constituency - that's kind of the point of a democracy. Arab Americans are so mad they are willing to be deported and oppressed so that democrats know they cannot continue killing and cause injustice around the world, they HAVE to change their policies.
Hi Nida. I wasn't born into the 3 Abrahamic faiths. Two of them ... Islam and Christianity are the only two religions that believe in conversion or death. They have killed hundreds of millions of people from the 3rd faith for 2000+ years plus each other and all of us. It's been a blood bath and continues. When does this stop?
The rise of radical Islamic sects have been in many places in the past 50 years but are Muslims, who don't want their religion to do these things, been standing up? I don't see it. Look at Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, North African countries and others. Where are the protests and demands on the United Nations? Or even the governments of these countries?
When does radical islam stop? Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, El Shaba? Why now? Because of Bernie and HIllary? NOT connected! Biden wasn't my 1st or 2nd choice and I don't like all the present administration policies but he is NOT responsible for this. The Middle East has been an issue for over 2000+ years because all 3 faiths consider it their 'homeland'.
Given that people are angry, are people now standing up against radical Christian sects in Michigan who are delighted with what's happening and want it to grow into a global war? Or these same people who want to oppress women one more time?
"Arab Americans are so mad they are willing to be deported and oppressed so that democrats know they cannot continue killing and cause injustice around the world, they HAVE to change their policies." .... Are you kidding me? I don't believe you for one moment that Arab Americans (as distinct from Muslim Americans) are willing to be deported and oppressed. They would be much more oppressed in most Arab/Muslim countries!
Democrats aren't the 'killers' any more than (You name them!) Democrats are not the cause of global injustice ... keep your eyes on China/HongKong or all the other oppressive countries ... Russia and China are the biggest.
By doing this, you continue to open the door to trump and those who will impose a white christian conservative governance into all our life and into the '7 mountains of society'. Sinclair has control over 172 TV stations (40%+). Catholics buy up hospitals are refuse care to women's issues. Christians are buying up local newspapers. Trump put a ban on Muslims, separated families, and caged children. Were you standing up then?
We can all pick chaos but you make change by 'working towards' things and not 'fighting against'. You can be angry but trust me, in my 80 years there have been buckets of things to get angry at. Voting against Biden in this election is a vote for white christian nationalism and further chaos between these two 'converting' faiths.
Sorry. And thanks for your reply. I wish these 3 faiths would realize The Great Global Truths and act on them
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
Before 1917 Christians, Jews and Muslims lived in peace for 2,000 years because the Quran teaches Muslims to respect the “People of the Book” Jews and Christians. The Bible on the other hand, does not teach inclusion.
You're kidding me. There were periods where these 3 tied at the hips religions lived around one another. Humans have that capacity. If Islam was peaceful then anyone should be able to draw a picture of mohammed ... simple as that. And look at how so many are forced to live in muslim countries. And, the same is happening in the US via the rise of white christian supremacy and nationalism. I'm a Woman and I know the Truths.
I am not from these faiths and there is nothing appealing to me about their histories or even how they represent themselves to the rest of us.
I live by the Great Global Truths.
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
As they say: 'Actions speak louder than words"
But the point is the type of protest in Michigan and not a broader conversation.
And for the record I was standing up then. Protested with time and money and we showed up in droves to vote for Biden. My deep red district voted blue for the first time since I can remember. We voted for him because we all hoped he wasn't as power hungry as Trump - that he valued life, peace, and democracy! Look at him now - we were all so wrong.
Hi Nida. I'm sorry. I just don't get this fervor of dislike. Biden did not start this. There is 2000+ years of history. Sort that out. Biden cannot end this. If you don't 'like' what he is doing, then others cannot 'like' the aid to Ukraine, or they don't like that women have sexual/reproductive equality/or that books certain books shouldn't be read ... on and on.
You don't like his policies about this so protest but if you protest against this administration, you will be electing the trump one! It's that simple. There has never been a time like this. Project 2025 is what's next.
I'm 'angry' about lots of things I hate the killing. On Oct 7, a radical sect of Islam came across a border and killed a bunch of people just like hundreds of thousands are being killed everyday by the global violence. I would have preferred israel to go to the United Nations and demand action. I would prefer your groups go to the United Nations.
You have a choice ... you hold your nose and vote for a continuation of this administration or you are voting for trump's and if you want to see violence then be prepared. He cut a 'transactional deal' with white christian nationalists who have been working in Israel for decades to bring forth the End Times. Bush 2 talked about it .. The Axis of Evil. If you let trump into the WH, there will be a massive war in the ME. Actions have consequences.
I believe this action is a tiny step in the wrong direction. There are so many other ways to express your grieve and anger but remember when you just pick and choose then you do not see the Big Picture and the Big Picture are the 3 Abrahamic faiths that continue to bring Insanity into a world that needs to come together because we are ALL One Humanity, living on One Planet .... that we are destroying.
No one is asking Biden to solve the Israel Palestine conflict - no one is asking Israel not to respond to Hamas attacks. They dont even have to go to the UN they are fully justified to handle it themselves. The problem is and has always been HOW they responded. And how the U.S under Biden FULLY supported that response. That’s the problem, let’s keep the focus on the right thing. If you truly believe the ONLY response was dropping 2000lb unguided bombs and stopping water food and aid to a million people, or undressing people and executing them in sports fields, then you are mistaken. This is unique for warfare in the 21st century. To the point that the UN said there is plausible evidence even of genocide! The response was done without regard to humanitarian law. And if your response is “but Hamas” then you’re saying barbaric warfare is acceptable in the 21st century - we don’t need humanitarian law and anyone is justified to do whatever in war. And in that case, you are not ushering in an age of peace. We have nuclear weapons in a dozen plus countries around the world - if we don’t have some boundaries we are ALL in danger.
Israel SHOULD respond - and this wouldn’t even be a conversation if there was collateral damage as is normal for war. It would still be unfortunate and tragic, but it would be within the standard of wars. This isn’t. It is unique. And it’s not a fascist ragtag militant group doing this - it’s a democratic government with immense weapon capability. To support it without question IS something we as citizens should hold our leaders accountable to.
And you and I can disagree on whether someone should vote for Biden or not. But to excuse Biden and say “he didn’t start this conflict 2000 years ago” isn’t holding him accountable for the actions he and his administration DID take. They are clearly holding double standards by asking some countries to follow international law while blatantly ignoring others. He should be held accountable for that. You can absolutely decide that’s not an important issue and you still want him as your president, that’s fine, but don’t excuse him from accountability.
Also, please enlighten me, who are “my people”? I am completely fine with disagreements, discussions, but when you feel like you need to dig in to personal attacks and stereotyping on who you “think” I am based on a 200 character response on a message board, maybe look in the mirror. If your points are valid you don’t need to attack someone else, just tell me your opinion and let’s talk.
My opinion is that refusing to vote for Biden in November is suicide. Michael Moore is not recommending that. He is recommending that we put the pressure on Biden NOW because people who have already decided they won't vote for him in November are what scares us. That is my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, of course, but I fear Trump's return far more than anything else.
Also, everyone can disagree with anything their leaders do in a democracy. By me disagreeing with Biden’s position on Gaza it doesn’t mean no one else can disagree with his position on other issues. You can disagree and protest and boycott and if the leader won’t listen and change, and the issue matters to you, you can choose not vote for them. Right?
Trump is horrible, we are all terrified, but Biden should realize that too right? Why doesn’t he care about his own country and his grandchildren as much as we do? In a democracy aren’t the leaders supposed to listen to their constituency? 70% want the war to stop but Congress is sending more weapons and making boycott illegal??? What a disconnect. This time maybe it’s an issue that isn’t a make or break it for you, but what if next time it is? Do we reward that callous disregard for democracy with 4 more years ?? We aren’t asking him to solve anything, just stop giving weapons our tax dollars pay for to countries that won’t respect humanitarian law, he doesn’t even have to make them listen just stop being complicit. But we can’t even do that?? How is voting for him saving our country or our planet? I just cant… I understand and judge NO one for voting for Biden. I understand completely the fear of Trump. Trump will come for me first before anyone else. But I can’t vote for Biden. And it should be Biden’s job to earn our vote, not mine to stomach a president I can’t agree with.
It's apparent you don't know many people in the Christian or Muslim community. Conversion or death???? Where on earth did you gain this understanding that this is mainstream Christianity or Islam? Only the most extreme fringe minute minority of members of those faiths would say something like that and by doing so would be ignoring the rest of the tenants of their faith. And where do you get your news???? What did Syria do to abet genocide that their people should be protesting? There are protests in the Middle East all the time to break economic ties with Israel to pressure them to stop mistreating the Palestinians. When religion and power get mixed together the result has always been disastrous, but I would be hard pressed to find a more backward understanding of the world. If you really believe this, please meet some more people, consider travelling to these countries, and watch Arabic news (they have subtitles) so you can broaden your horizons. And look at history - you don't even have to look that far. ISIS? Born after the unfounded Iraq War, Taliban? Supported financially and trained by the US in the 70s. There are geopolitical histories to all of these fascist groups. The real enemy??? Isn't religion - if you want to attribute all bad things people who have a faith to their faith you also have to attribute all the good they do. The real enemy is humanity's unquenchable desire for power. Most of us don't succumb to it, many BECAUSE of their dedication to their faith, but those who do want power are breaking this world apart. And making us believe that other things are the cause so we can be distracted. Don't fall for it.
hi Nida. Islam and Christianity are the only two religions that believe you must follow their book or they have the right to kill you. It's always been that way. You can say: 'Oh, that's only some small sects'. In present Muslim countries, women are deeply oppressed. You know that. White christian nationalists in the US want women to be deeply oppressed. You know this. You know that these two religions brutalized Jews for that whole 2000+ years and now, not my wish, they have decided to join the Insanity.
None of what you say is the point! You/your groups have decided that this one action ... not vote for Biden ... is the best protest. I disagree. I think it's foolish, could result in trump being elected and Project 2025 implemented and a bigger war in the ME. Protest. It's this protest that makes absolutely ZERO sense to me.
We can agree to disagree on the best way to protest. If we continue to protest your way and the government doesn’t listen, then what? What’s the next step? What do you do if the system is so deeply corrupted and tainted with money that they are not incentivized to listen to their constituency ? Genuine question.
Also, I am not an expert on Christianity, so I can’t speak to that. But I can say that your opinion of Islam and your portrayal that these tenets are mainstream is completely false. There are examples In history where islamic governments didn’t force convert people. If you want sources I’ll provide them. all religious texts have controversial lines that need to be put in to context , and Shouldn’t be misconstrued in their most negative light.
it is unfair to portray religions by a concept only believed by extremists .
If Islam and Christianity had never been brought to the earth, do you really think we would have peace and nothing bad would ever happen? Or if we had no religion? Conflicts over land and resources happened before Christianity too.
Greetings again. You do whatever you want. It makes no sense and won't ever make sense to me. And then there's the 1,2,3 skip a few 99,100. Whatever way you choose to protest this one issue is your choice and it has zero to do with 'deeply corrupted and tainted money' ... In reality, either everything is tainted with 'dark money' due to decisions from the Supreme Court, or it's cynical to always assume that it's dark money ... either way ... we have ZERO control over that and has zero to do with your decision to not vote for Biden. You think trump isn't funded by dark money? Saudi gave jared billions of $!
Nonsense about Islam. Even Hamas 'river to the sea' is about getting rid of anyone who is not muslim. Take a look at all the conservative muslim countries. They live via religious oppression. Conservative 'sects' believe in word for word of their 'book'. Goodness, if a person draws a picture of X then muslims believe that person can be killed. Come on. If a religion can have extremists then the foundation of that religion is extreme. This issue in Israel is about religion. The whole West Bank settlers are about oppression by radical jewish people against people in the West Bank. The history continues and will continue. The issue is there.
War, violence, oppression exist because people believe in their superiority. But this has nothing to do with the type of protest you support. Normally, I won't care one way or another. I care because of the alternative. If Biden loses, we get trump. If we get trump, we get Project 2025 and if you don't know about that then become informed.
For me, I'm content that I was not brought up in the 3 Abrahamic faiths. I do not see our present world benefiting from religious extremism ... even what is happening now in India. We are destructive to other humans and for what?
There is really not much else to talk about. You'll do whatever you want and I'll continue to say that not voting for Biden is voting for trump and 'they' (white christian radicals) win.
Yes, White Christian nationalists want women to be deeply oppressed. Do they believe they have the right to kill people for not being Christian? I don't know. But most Christians I have known over a long period of time don't believe that, and it's not in their holy book, either.
Hi Tim. Time is a long stretch. It's only recently that we now see the World as Global. We've moved across the globe. Conquest has existed throughout Time. We've tended to see ourselves as 'humans' and others as 'different/other' and therefore, we've killed one another.
When Europeans were Colonizing the world, it was the catholic faith (Protestants didn't exist yet). They used a Doctrine of Discovery 1493... a Papal Edict that focused on Colonizing Africa and The Americas. This gave Spanish and Portuguese the 'right' to kill, loot and enslave others and did so. But it didn't start there.
In the US, the rise of militant christians is on the rise.
BRILLIANT WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM EXPLANATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtE8eQBfJ8o
WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST PLAN
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086
MOBILIZING AGAINST CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UE1y3yDgzo&t=2578s
The people of Michigan stopping Netanyahu? That's the president's job, and instead he hugs the Trump of Tel Aviv and circumvents Congress to send munitions to kill tens of thousands of innocents. And stop with the relativism. Biden's immigration policies are merely extensions of Trump's , and Biden has deported and incarcerated far more migrants than Trump. Now he wants to shut down the southern border. You are citing a Muslim ban of Trump's and yet have no outrage about Biden's expansion of Trump's Title 42 nor his administrations denial that migrants were being whipped at the southern border when it's on video for all to see!
Yup Barry ... stop Netanyahu! Go to the United Nations and sit on the doorstep until they take action. Yup, go over to the ME and make a human chain that stops Israel. Then knock down the walls that stop Palestinians from leaving because none of the Muslim/Arab countries want them. Yup, stand up and work toward positive change in the ME. And just wait until you elect trump and Project 2025 into the WH. There are some times when 'suck it up' and 'do other things' is common sense. There are SO many things that can be done but this act is what's called a 'lazyman's action'. It's blaming one person and one administration for something that continues after 2000+ years and has to do with 'religious' beliefs and not politics. Hamas did not go into Israel for 'politics' they did it for 'religion'. I'm not outraged with the present administration about the border ... I'm outraged at the GOP in Congress! Aren't you?
Humans are destroying themselves and our waters,soils, airs, species and each other. Focus on a Great Renewal and The Global Truths
1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’.
2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth
3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth.
4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
I can be outraged at the Republicans and Biden's inhumanity and racism at the same time. Biden has circumvented Congress twice to send hundreds of millions in munitions to Israel and is asking for $14 billion more. Does he HAVE to do that? Perhaps if he said no more weapons, no more munitions and no more protection in the UN Netanyahu might think twice. I agree with your statement on humanity, yet in your protection of Biden's direct and inexcusable actions you are participating in the US empire's International Division of Humanity. You should be outraged at Biden because he is doing THE SAME THINGS Trump has been doing regarding border policy. It's called critical thinking and morality, but instead you're playing politics to protect a racist who has done more harm in his career than Trump!
Hi Barry. That's not how I see it. I am outraged by so many things that are endangering our Humanity, Waters, Airs, Soils, Species, Planet, each Other. How do you pick and choose? You decided to 'choose' this one. Fine. It's the actions ... don't vote for Biden ... that I object to because it will put trump into the WH and Project 2025 ... you ain't seen nothing yet if you think or believe in morality, critical thinking etc. The Embassy was moved because white christian nationalists wanted it moved as a step closer to the End Times ... War in the ME. They side with Netanyahu as does trump. They side with Russia because 'it's the last white christian nation'. The Abraham Accord was created with Israel and Saudi but not the Palestinans. No Arab/Muslim country wants the Palestinians ... I don't understand that but there is 2000+ history of Insanity.
This is your issue. How you want to express it doesn't sit well with me. I didn't like it when Feminists said: "All men are potential rapists' or 'if women ruled the world there would be peace'.
And what a Fking laugh that biden is more a racist and done more harm than trump! That's unreal and so ignorant that it's shameful! But it shows something about you. You are outraged because you want trump in the white house and I don't.
The voters of Michigan should be careful of what they ask. If, somehow, we are cursed with the second coronation of T****, they will have to shoulder a good portion of the blame. I hold out hope that the people of my home state are not that stupid. I will have to put my faith in the army of grandfathers who will not allow T**** to get anywhere near the Oval Office.
Give us an alternative - PLEASE Americans are literally bleeding for an alternative. Stop blaming voters, democrats did this to themselves. When Bernie was the Democrat Americans wanted DEMOCRATS
SHUT HIM DOWN. The most powerful nation in the world gets these two bozo options???? Thats the best we can do??? It's like the Democrats did this on purpose - and now when Biden clearly has memory issues they aren't even asking him to step down. Give us an alternative. Arab Americans are ok to be blamed, oppressed, and even deported but there's got to be a red line somewhere. If abetting genocide isn’t, what’s your red line? Wheres our humanity ? Old white men, the army of grandfathers, nothing bad will happen to them under Trump, but Arab Americans and progressives who say enough is enough - the worst will happen to them. They are willing to be oppressed for the hope of a better tomorrow even if it’s decades down the road and they don’t get to see it. Call it stupid if you want - the alternative is cowardly.
It's not the 'old white men' I'm worried about. It's their grandchildren, and I cannot stand by and allow them to be subjected to a life under T****. No. Matter. What. He must be defeated, and his MAGA supporters removed from office.
I hate Trump - let me make that clear. But please tell me how a vote for Biden stops MAGA? Biden hasn’t preserved democracy in the last 4 years. He’s not doing anything to protect us. didn't overturn citizens united, didn’t try to codify the things democrats care about, and isn’t stopping the military industrial complex. Do we really think Trump and those like him are just going to give up politics if Biden wins this year? Democrats failed us during Obama when they owned the house and senate and literally passed nothing . They failed us with Hillary by not allowing Bernie a fair chance. And they are failing us with Biden by not making him step down. They cannot defeat MAGA - and I’m starting think they don’t want to. Unless they start listening to US and not their donors and foreign interests - sorry to break it to you but we’ve already lost to MAGA.
Enough votes for Biden can stop MAGA by keeping them out of power. Biden can't do everything by himself, but we hope by putting the pressure on him that we can help stop the slaughter in Gaza.
While walking for Bernie, knocking on hundreds of doors of infrequent voters, I came to the conclusion that your vote is your voice. A vote for Biden says that you like him and want him to be your president. It does not mean that you dislike the other guy. Perhaps in the general election you should vote strategically. The primaries are where you can have your voice heard. I would suggest that instead of voting "uncommitted" that people vote for a third party candidate. This is saying what you actually prefer, and not what you might be afraid of.
I agree with your assessment wholeheartedly. But we must understand that people don't want to look through this door and only see darkness. As a student of comedy improv (a very beginner!) I feel that it's essential to see the darkness, and then light a candle. (Yes...and!) Maybe hold hands.
The fact that you don't write out Trump's name shows how brainwashed you are, just like the T**** supporters you love to hate. Perhaps you don't realize it, but Trump's immigration policies have been almost exactly the same as Trump's and he has deported and incarcerated far more migrants than Trump (and now he is threatening to close the border, where's your outrage?). And what precisely would be worse than aiding and abetting a genocide? Perhaps you are willing to participate in the International Division of Humanity that is destabilizing the world, but many of us do not see it leading to anything but perpetual war and nuclear confrontation.
You fail to see the one difference that rises above all others: T****'s purpose is to destroy our democracy. Nothing else matters. He, and the Republicans who support him, must be defeated, at the ballot box if possible. Better candidates could be found, but at this juncture, we don't have time to convince the imbeciles who support him: they cannot be reasoned with. And blaming Biden for Netenyahu's actions is wrong.
Yes, and Michael Moore makes that point several times in the podcast.
For those who want to blame Michiganders, look in the mirror. Because they are no more to blame than you are. This is the action of our government. And it’s horrifically apparent now that there is no foundational difference between the Ds and the Rs. Because both will engage in slaughter if it serves their end games.
If the DNC wakes up, there is time for a better person to be raised up. The real problem is AIPAC is so deeply embedded in our political system that there’s no one who will be raised up that isn’t compromised.
AIPAC should be ruled a foreign agent and banned from campaign contributions.
Yes yes yes yes and YES.
I wish the Wiki page about the "2025 Project" were required reading for every American. I had never heard about it until now, so I had to look it up. Shame on anybody included in a list with Stephen Miller, the Latter Day Joseph Goebbels.
At this point, a vote for any Republican is a vote for a Nazi America. I have always been an Independent voter, because I don't like our two-party monopoly. Right now, I believe that life-long Repuplicans must step up and reject the morphing of their party into a Neo-Nazi nightmare. The "2024 Project" is to vote for people who don't dishonor the sacrifices made by people who died fighting fascism in WW2. And don't let Trump become the AntiChrist... America can do better.
We can choose to do better. Yah, Biden, so can you.
We need to show up in the congressional primaries in droves to support those who are against the grain. You are so right the 2 party system serves no one and it's never been more apparent than now
Biden has helped to expose the amorality and hypocrisy of American empire for all to see. He is part of the problem that ushered in the era of Trump, not a remedy for it. Biden has been a dyed-in-the-wool racist his entire career, from segregated busing to his 1994 Crime Bill to his decades long support for the Hyde Amendment to all of his actions in foreign policy and apparently liberals love him for it. He has caused more tangible harm to black and brown people here at home and around the world than Republicans have, and that's no praise for Republicans. He is a Zionist through and through and does not see the Palestinian people as human, and neither does his Trumpaphobic base.
"Donald Trump is making a list of all the people he's going to punish and get revenge on. He is thinking about all the institutions in our society he is going to destroy. There's nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal. To my eyes, Donald Trump was always an animal — but now he's a wounded animal. Too many Americans — including people in the news media and in politics who should know better — are not comprehending the scale of Trump's revenge. If Trump gets back in power heads are going to roll. There are so many people who are going to be in harm's way. People better wake up and stop being in denial." - Dr. John Gartner, psychologist and former professor at the Johns Hopkins University Medical School.
Biden may be part of the problem. Trump will come for your family, wanna-be revolutionary boy.
They're already coming, my cousin got fired from her teaching position for posting in defense of the Palestinian people on social media. I know who Trump is and I know who Biden is. Biden has come for hundreds of thousands of families overseas, from Iraq to Libya to Afghanistan to Palestine. Trumpaphobia is an illness that prevents proper diagnosis of the core issue. You can send your band-aids to the 30,000 killed and 100,000 wounded in Gaza, or those in Ukraine for that matter. The American empire will kill you if you are deemed obsolete.
Absolutely - people can make fun of "revolutionaries" but we are saying and doing what you are too scared to do - the truth is obvious, Biden isn't a lesser of two evils. He's an evil and Trump is a different evil. We can keep being scared and accepting the status quo but how does anyone think that by electing Biden we solve anything? What Trump is going to disappear ? Trump-like candidates won’t ever run again? Are we kicking a can down the road for four years and thinking we solved something?? This is a broken system - if democrats want to win Biden needs to step down. They need to listen to their constituency. And republicans need to get their damn heads out of the sand and take back their party instead of bowing to trump. They need to stop voting republican no matter what because they are so scared of abortion or trans bathrooms or whatever nonsense.
Also everyone show up to congressional primaries and for your local elections - if you never got in politics before now is the time. we need some representation in congress and some sane local government to protect us from whoever gets in the white house
I was born and raised in Michigan (Dearborn) and have lived here in Georgia for nearly 40 years now. Understand that Biden won GA's 16 electors in 2020, but it's going to return to red this year. The odds are high that AZ's 11 votes will go red too. That' leaves a state like Michigan as the deciding factor.
Do you really think the citizens of Georgia will support T****? Good god, Thomas, I hope not. I'll continue to hope they've not gone Nazi on us.
A permanent cease fire is only possible when Hamas is eliminated - completely, utterly, blissfully.
The only reason Hamas even exists is because of Israeli oppression.
No - that's not true. If we want to engage in barbarism to defeat barbarism please don't be so naive to imagine we will get peace. Barbarian acts lead to radicalism. It will further radicalized and destabilize the middle east, please don't be foolish. If hamas is eliminated by bombing and starving a million people then a new group will form worse than them, made up of orphans suffering a life of PTSD. A permanent ceasefire is absolutely necessary right now
And impossible with Netenyahu in power. Israel is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis tried to do to the Jews. Years of oppression will not be forgotten.
Maybe possible with international pressure. But lasting peace cant be achieved with his right wing government in place for sure.
Doing nothing didn't work; allowing so many (pro-Hamas/anti-Israeli) hateful/lesser intelligent beings to misrepresent the facts & cause harm didn't work. Allowing misguided fools to call for a futile 2-state solution didn't work. Hoping for world peace that will not come in anyone's lifetime won't work.....so, what is YOUR solution?
AbbyWrites -
Hamas would not exist if it were not for the atrocities Israel has been committing against Palestinians for DECADES. Hamas is a militant RESPONSE to the horrific and barbaric (thank you, Nida) treatment Palestinians (AND Lebanese) have endured at the hands of Israel for DECADES.
Israel needs to be expelled from Palestinian Territories for good.
You, and many others, refuse 'to see the whole picture. The Jewish people, have been victimized for centuries., being chased out of one country, returning,, settling elsewhere, being banned from pursuing our religion, demonized, being killed, etc.
In this case, - the beginnings of this tale, in this area, had one group try to run off. Since many believe Israel was the Jewish home and others do not, it's useless to argue the point.
Hamas - a group of misguided, violent, murderous life forms who find honor in killing an entire group of people, and therefore, have no connection to humanity, have been dishonorable in their pursuit of eliminating Israel.
Hamas attacks first. Hamas goes through men, women, children & babies to pursue its goal. Hamas goes through Israelis,. Americans, Palestinians, etc. to pursue its goal. Hamas are ray pests, and they use babies and others as shields. Hamas never kept up a cease fire. They cont9inually have broken any truce. Israel is the only free nation in the middle East.
Everything in paragraphs 2 and 3 are lies, propaganda, misconceptions, and there’s some gaslighting in there, too…insert “Israel” wherever you have written “Hamas” and you’ll have it about right. And it’s not a “free nation”…what a joke. Talk to those Israelis who go against the fascist Netanyahu regime.
Sorry paragraphs 3 and 4 are bs.
I've been following Israel since 1972. How long have you involved yourself with this country? I'm astounded how blind you are. Have you been to Israel? I have. Have you seen the hate against various groups of people by other people. Hatred has been around for longer than I've been on Earth.. Much is based on blind ignorance.
You support monsters who have shouted their goal to eliminate Israel. As if killing many who did nothing was a glorious thing. What does that make YOU? Israel leaders are sick and tired of decades of this nonsense by monsters. Hamas has never demonstrated honor. If you deny the witnesses statements of the freed hostages who support Israel, then you have been brainwashed.
Have been following the situation only 7 years less…1979.
I have not been to Israel but have had many Palestinian and Lebanese friends over the years.
From Palestinian friends, I first learned of the horrific prisons where the Israelis picked up people off the street and imprisoned them for years while subjecting them to torture. These people were not involved in any crimes but they were held for years, sometimes several times over, without a judicial process.
Each time over the last 5 decades that the Israelis have invaded - whether in Palestine or Lebanon - they have killed 10-, 20-, and 30-fold of civilians compared to the deaths of their civilians.
My Lebanese friends lived in Beirut during the Israeli occupation and described being stopped, questioned and threatened at Israeli checkpoints incessantly. One of them was in their home when an Israeli rocket hit the apartment above their dining room. And another time when one hit their bedroom when they weren’t in it. They frequently had to retreat to the basement when Israel launched missiles.
They described the Israelis entering refugee camps at night and gunning down hundreds of people at a time.
You, like the Israeli propagandists, want to talk about your feeling so threatened as though that justifies the wholesale slaughter of thousands of men, women and children.
I do not deny the Holocaust.
But Israelis deny that they are recreating the Holocaust on an entire population.
Israel is and has been for decades an illegal occupier of Palestinian Territories. As an illegal occupier, intl law says they have ZERO right to defend themselves.
Go make yourself feel better about this genocide. But it’s a genocide nonetheless.
Ballots in the Rooney household marking uncommitted have been sent. It is not only Biden who needs to get a clue. It's all the corporate Dems.
Part TWO
The world witnessed, prior to October, a process of normalization by Israel and many powerful Arab states. We know that Iran would have none of this and has been supporting Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organization in a bid for control in the region. We now know that Netanyahu allowed Hamas to exist by allowing money to pass to Gaza for years prior to the October war, thinking that he was buying them off. He was outsmarted and now we will have an entirely new generation of Palestinians who hate the Jews and feel justified when Jews are killed by terrorist acts. So much for normalization.
My problem with your premise and the premise of voters who might hold back their vote for Biden in 2024 is that you assume that Biden has the power to dictate to Netanyahu how to conduct his policy toward Gaza and the Palestinians.
I believe in Biden and his people. I believe that, unlike arrogant Hillary, he will listen to his people on the ground in Michigan and figure out a way to reach out to all sides to get the Israeli hostages back, to get both sides to agree to a cease fire, and to start the process of creating a Palestinian state that has the ability to sustain itself.
But even if a cease fire is achieved, peace in Gaza can never assured as Hamas has beat the Palestinian Authority before, partly due to internal corruption, partlty due to support of Hamas by Iran, and other Arab states in the region. If the Palestinian Authority can be resurrected, there is no guarantee without a lot of cooperation and engagement by Arab states in the region and the West that the same thing will not happen again. There has to be some intermediary body composed of nations (like England, the US, Germany, and so on who have influence in the region and powerful countries in the region (like Saudi Arabia) to be serious about maintaining peace and building an infrastructure that will be enduring.
The case has to be made to right leaning American Jews that the equation of an eye for an eye has been satisfied (2K Israelis killed, maimed, tortured, and raped against the over 50K Palestinians that have been killed and maimed, entire communities destroyed). Enough is enough. But making that case to people that I know in the US is not as easy as it sounds. There is a political reality here that comes into play. I have to hope that Biden's people have their work cut out for them. We can all yell and scream at Biden, but he is not the culprit here. People in the entertainment love their causes, but for all the money that they have raised and the awareness of unfairness and cruelty, the world is not much better off or safer. Now, it seems less safe, less fair, and authoritarian regimes seem to be winning as fear of diversity become the major issue.
We have seen what happened with the bi-partisan border bill. The most conservative Republicans got much of what they wanted in a very serious bill that was DOA in the House, not on its merits but because Trump does want Biden to chalk up another victory in his bid to restore America to its former greatness as the leading world power in the West. It is this same kind of stalemate that exists around the issue of Gaza, the long and terrible history since the State of Israel was established in 1948.
I know your heart is in the right place, but I fail to see that demonstrations in Michigan and warnings from voters that they may not vote in 2024 is going to do anything more than mobilizing Biden's damage control people to try to find a solution that satisfies enough people to get him elected, save our democracy, prevent millions of people from diverse backgrounds from being deported, prevent authoritarian regimes like that of Netanyahu, Putin, and so on to persist. Biden has shown that his heart is in the right place giving aid and comfort to millions of Americans who simply want to share the America dream in a very toxic environment BECAUSE people who know Biden trust him and know that he is honestly looking for solutions.
There has to be an adult in the room. If it is you, then I believe you need to rachet down the rhetoric and come up with real solutions to the complex issues around Gaza, the Palestinians, the Israelis, and the two million Israelis living in the settlements.
My final word is that I believe the only hope is that men of goodwill, include the Saudis who do see an advantage in normalizing relations with Israel, will work quietly in the background to craft solutions that not only address the current situation, which is not acceptable to anyone, which stops the killing by the Israelis, get the hostages back, and begins the long and arduous process of establishing a Palestinian state. One important part of that solution is the commitment by all nations involved of billions of dollars of aid to the Palestinians to build a stable infrastruction a military presence to prevent Hamas from gaining control.
One important thing to remember is that before the October attack, 65% of the people who lived in Gaza were receiving humanitarian aid. That means the 65% of the people of Gaza did not have enough food and water to survive on their own. Why, one must ask the Arab American community were th three current leaders of Hamas able to amass fortunes of $11 billion dollars while the majority of their people were starving? It is easy to decry the brutal policies of Israeli military engagement currently being practiced in Gaza, but the end result is not a solution.
Part ONE
There are only a few news sources that I trust totally (you, Heather Cox Richardson, Rachel Maddow (but I cannot watch her because I get too upset about the particular issue she is reporting on -- on the advice of my doctor, I need to limit the time I spend with cable news).
I listened to your podcast, and I agree that what you say. However, I have a few things to say in response.
I have my doubts that Biden has the power to stop the killing. He and Netanyahu are not buddies as you would have us believe. I trust that Biden's people will not make the same mistake that Hillary Clinton made when Donna Brazille, the chairman called her and asked for additional funds for the rust belt states and Clinton refused saying "our computer models tell us we are just fine." Such arrogance! Brazille said she got off the phone and cried because she knew that Hillary would lose the election.
I do not have the same fear that Biden's people are not aware of the issue with Israel and the people of Gaza and hope that they will heed the warning signs that Biden must find a way to walk a very difficult tightrope between hard-line Jews in America and most everyone else.
It is most important for Arab Americans, Jewish Americans, and everybody else not supporting Trump that Trump is evicerated in 2024 and a blue sunami will take back the Houseand prtovide a comfortable majority. No less than 20 moderate Republicans -- some are committee chairpeople -- have had enough and will not run. There is a serious lack of money in the Republican war chests at the local, state, and at the RNC. New issues that effect not only women's reproductive rights but the ability to have a family via invitro will help Democrats to keep the Senate, and for Biden to win the electoral vote by a wide margin.
However, there are some facts that need to be mentioned.
First, we all know that the reason Netanyahu remains in power is because there are over two million Israeli settlers that make up one third of the population of Israel. That is a powerful and overwhelming block of potential voters who think nothing of actually attacking Palestinians.
Netanyahu is a virtual dictator and has enough support to stay in power and has stacked the Israeli Supreme Court. Only a few key members of the Israeli government need to switch sides in order for there to be a new government formed, but that has not happened yet, and given the carnage in Gaza, if it has not happened by now, it will not happen anytime in the near future. Like Putin, Netanyahu is hoping for a Trump win in November.
The three top leaders of Hamas live in luxury in Qatar and are worth $11 billion dollars, money that could be spent to help the Palestinians in Gaza but is not and never will be. Until the world leaders force these three top Hamas leaders too spend that money building infrastructure in Gaza, give up their insistence that Israel does not have a right to exist, and would, if it had the means and the opportunity commit genocide on the Israelis, there will never be peace.
Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations have realized that there is more money and the ability to finally have lasting peace in the region by normalizing relations with Israel. The Saudis want to be the China of the region and see the future much differently than Palestinians who live in terrible conditions in places like Gaza.
However, the powers that be who are benefitting financially from the continual wars in the Middle East, not only with Israel, but with each other, will never give up their position on the total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel. The other problem is that the Palestinian Authority in Gaza went head to head with Hamas and lost for lots of reasons including their own corruption. The bottom-line is that for many in power in the Middle East, it is simply a business. Follow the money and it becomes obvious that the average person living in the MIddle East wants peace and a good life for themselves and their children. But the powers that be will never allow this to happen. Tjhe Arab Americans who are horrified at the carnage in Gaza at the hands of the Israeli army also need to consider that the Palestinians themselves were at war with each other and the bad guys won.
Also, prior to the October war 65% of Palestinians in Gaza required humitarian aid. [I refer to it as a "war" but it seems more like, as you point out in your podcast, an extermination by Netanyahu of Palestinians, a non-solution that will keep Israel at war with the people of Gaza, Hamas, and even people who would like to see a Palestinian state emerge.
I liked these comments from Robert B. Hubbell's blog:
A comment about the Michigan primary on Tuesday
Some Democratic leaders in Michigan are urging Democrats to vote “uncommitted” in the upcoming primary to signal their disapproval of President Biden’s continued support for Israel in its war against Hamas. (In particular, they want Biden to call for an unconditional cease-fire and to suspend military support for Israel until that happens. See USA Today, Rep. Rashida Tlaib urges Michigan Democrats to vote 'uncommitted' in protest against Biden.
A common question I get from readers is how to talk to younger family members about supporting Joe Biden given strongly held views about the war in Gaza. One reader sent a link to post that included a post by Stephen Miller on Truth Social about Trump's Project 2025. The link shows Trump's plan to systematically exclude, interrogate, and deport Muslim and Arab Americans, students, and refugees.
Stephen Miller begins with this note: “Ladies and gentlemen, It doesn’t get any better than this,” and then describes “Trump's plan to keep jihadists and their sympathizers out of America.”
Stephen Miller then lists the elements of Project 2025 that are directed to “jihadists and sympathizers” as follows:
Reinstate and Expand Trump Travel Ban on Entry From Terror-Plagued Countries, Territories, and Places.
Reimplement a Full Suspension of State Dept Refugee Resettlement (this include Gazan refugees).
Implement Strong Ideological Screening for All Immigrants to the United States—Sympathy for Jihadists, Hamas, or Hamas Ideology Will Be Automatically Disqualifying.
Aggressively Deport Resident Aliens With Jihadist Sympathies
Revoke the Student Visas of Radical Anti-American and Anti-Semitic Foreigners at Colleges and Universities.
Proactively Send ICE to Pro-Jihadist Demonstrations to Enforce Our Immigration Laws and Remove the Violators From Our Country.
Continue and Expand Denaturalization of Criminals, Terrorists, and Immigration Cheats.
Invoke the Alien Enemies Act to Accelerate Domestic Deportations
We witnessed in 2017 how Trump's “Muslim ban” worked in practice—it effectively shut down travel from eleven Muslim-majority nations into the US. One of Joe Biden’s first acts was to reverse those travel restrictions. See NPR (3/6/2021), Biden Has Overturned Trump's 'Muslim Travel Ban.' Activists Say That's Not Enough.
As one Muslim leader (of Emerge Action) said at the time,
The Muslim communities are thrilled that [Biden] upheld his promise to our community, but we need to recognize that more needs to be done, specifically through congressional action, to ensure that no future administration can abuse the presidential authorities we saw Donald Trump abuse.
Bringing political pressure to bear on President Biden is understandable and fair. But within that political struggle over policy, we must ensure that Trump does not regain the Oval Office—otherwise, he will not only reinstitute his “Muslim ban,” but he will take dozens of other steps to discriminate against Muslim and Arab Americans, students, and refugees.
https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/democrats-should-be-gaining-confidence
H.L. Mencken writing on American democracy compared it to a man who when faced with a banquet table turned away to eat grubs from the floor. In a similar vein witness Joe Biden: after a mostly mediocre political life he is gifted with the Presidency, the hero who slew Trump. Seventy seven years old, his career safely behind him, he has the opportunity of greatness! Does he shake off the shackles of Corporate Dems careerist timidity, prepare for the transition he promised, do the big things with courage? No! He turns from the banquet table and runs to embrace his shallow ego that needs re-election validation and then literally runs to Israel to embrace a tin horn money grubbing dictator wannabe who’s flushing any pretense of morality down the shithole and taking American democracy with him. Voting uncommitted is a gentle kindness to Biden, he needs to be bid farewell and sent ti his rocking chair where he can reflect on all he and we have lost.
Hi Nida. I read your passion and not certain how to respond or what to say. Presently, the US is biggly funding Ukraine and Israel/Hamas. From what you are saying is that funding both of these isn't what you favor. Complex. Killing others or funding others to kill others is very complex.
The killing of other human beings is so common that it's expected and mostly ignored.
While all the killing of each other is the Insanity, how does that match up to our killing our Planet? I don't know. That's my freak-out and I have no idea how to be effective in changing that.
You've now said it 'I won't vote for Biden" ... and all of xtrump's supporters are applauding you. They want you doing this. They don't care what 'This' is? They are using lots of 'This' to peel off people like you. They just want you and others NOT to vote for Biden.
With kind regards,
When covid started, I was at home in New Zealand. I caught the first variety, spent months recovering and mostly focused on how Asian was responding. A year later, I sat down with a friend. We wrote down everything we had heard (no judgment ... only 'what have you heard/read'). it ws 3 pages, single-spaced at 12 font. I'd never experienced anything in my 80 years that had such a Litany.
Your response is like that. There are lots of factors. There are a huge number of factors. you've put them together in a certain manner. Even another person who puts the same information together might not come up with the same type of protest.
All I've done is to give you the 1 reason that not voting for Biden may be a vote for xrump. What you are doing is talking points for the xrump campaign. In other words, you're not protesting 'Inhumanity' and "insanity". You're doing a political action that may benefit the other political group ... in a 2 group system. That's the choice when there are so many choices to protest Human's Inhumanity to Other Humans.
Mike, you speak of 'protecting our Jewish brethren' but, considering history still within living memory, can you or anyone blame them if they no longer trust us to do that? Maybe they never will again? This is war, not genocide. Hamas deliberately used, and is still using, the Gazans as human shields and an alarming percentage of THEM are OK with that! Some speak still of visiting more October days on Israel! And how many Arab/Muslim Wolverines, secretly or openly, WANT to give Hamas the victory they seek with such a ceasefire and then finish the Shoah sooner or later? I wonder, myself.
Because Bibi will never agree to such a ceasefire. Do these Wolverines hope we will, once Bibi tells us to get lost, switch sides and make war on Israel? I wouldn't be too surprised if they do. Such an ultimatum from Biden to Netanyahu would only be spat upon, we would lose much (at least) of our influence with Israel AND, here, we would lose how many Jewish funders and foot-soldiers?
That actually might be an even surer way of ensuring Trump's return this fall and probably start to kill democracy around the world. I'm sorry to see these people between a rock and a hard place, but if they know what's good for them AND the rest of the world besides, they'll transcend their personal wounds, take some good long looks around, maybe swallow hard, and stay with Biden in the knowledge and understanding that the Democrats are the only way out of Trumpian darkness for all of us in this planet!
Not to mention how strengthened Netanyahoo would be at home by his defiance of us! Has anyone thought of that yet?
If Hamas was hiding in Israel, using Israelis as human sheilds, hiding in tunnels under Israeli hospitals, would Israel have done the same thing? Would they have shut of water power and electricity to Israeli citizens? Starved them? Prevented aid from going in? Bombed all the hospitals to get rid of Hamas? We all know they wouldn't. They didn't go about this war in a way that valued any innocent citizens life. Not even babies in incubators. This is clear, and unjustifiable. It’s not a war. It’s more than that.
What do you think the US objective should be? Save certain faiths around the world regardless of the costs to anyone else? If so, please know you won't ever get peace. For anyone. If you think justice should be the objective - then your narrative falls apart because you need to take it in account oct 6, oct 5 and every day prior for the last 50+ years. You need to take in to account child arrests and deaths that occurred before Hamas was created, you need to take in to account illegal settlements that threw people from their homes and bulldozed building with people including activists from around the world before Hamas was created. If it’s support economic interests at all costs then sadly, again - this doesn’t end in peace for anyone.
They would never have been ABLE to hide like that in Israel, so your starting premise is a LIE! And it never, never, NEVER would have occurred to Israelis to use civilians as human shields! Start with THAT! Furthermore, the idea that we would 'save certain faiths' around the world is a dead giveaway to your Islamonazi being! In two ways, no less! First, you speak of 'certain faiths', betraying you believe the lie that Jews are ONLY distinguished by religion! No dice, dear! They are also a NATION and a PEOPLE! Second, by asking whether we should do that, you betray your frustration y'all haven't been able to finish what Hitler pushed forward, that the JOOS, of all people, keep on beating y'all Great Warriors on the fields of battle!
Well, take your frustration, your lying and your deliberate ignorance and STUFF IT!
It’s a thought experiment - you know where you imagine something to try to understand a concept better?
I know it’s not possible - it’s using our imagination to make a point. Israel is breaking international law.
The IDF HAVE used Palestinian citizens as human shields on numerous occasions documented by
The Israeli Center for Human Rights in Occupied Territories among others.
And nope, I’m not the extremist, that sounds like you. Take a look in the mirror.
I want peace - actual peace. Stability. And we can’t do it by ignoring our current situation or history.
Like when? Give me particulars that I can check and I will believe. Btw, I don't like Bibi or his government either. I don't favor one state in the land one way or t'other. I even agree with you about the perils of ignoring history, although I suspect the histories each of us know are missing a few truths. I will repair to this Israeli Center for Human Rights and see what I can find.
I have no problem learning something new about history - but I do think to have a discussion we need to both be interested in peace - and as trusted agents of peace we have to agree that members of all faith groups, cultures, and identities deserve an equal right to peace. Both Hamas and Bibi’s right wing government are not agents of peace. And without peace we will all lose. Even those of us who don’t live in that region. We all pay for the destabilization of a region in a globalized world.
B’tselem is the organization, indepdent, non partisan, funded by donations North American and European grants. https://www.btselem.org/about_btselem
There is an article by the Red Cross about the IDF using human sheilds, Stanford Law has an article which talks about the use of human shields in warfare in general and cites Israel as an example, the Israel Human RightsYearbook has an article on this, the Israel Supreme Court ruled it was unlawful for the IDF to use human shields which means they were engaging in this practice. Even after the ruling that it was unlawful to use Palestinians as human shields cases continued to be brought of incidences where this was still happening.
Oh here’s another Israeli apologist and/or AIPAC troll. ISRAEL IS THE ENTITY that uses Palestinian civilians as human shields. Not the other way around.
Israel was given the gift of PALESTINIANS’ lands in 1948. Not the other way around. And they’ve been punishing the people who fought against the loss of their property, their homes, their farmlands, their livelihoods, ever since.
And you're a shill for Arab/Muslim imperialism!
Apparently Brian skipped world history classes from 6th grade on…
The word “imperialism” describes U.S. policy to a T.
As it describes Arab/Muslim, policy in the seventh to tenth centuries and Ottoman policy in the fourteenth to at least the seventeenth century. Their legacies are with us still too. I mean, how DID North Africa and Mesopotamia get to be 'Arab'? Why, by conquest and colonization, that's how! Now what was that about skipping out on world history classes again?
Post Michigan I'm frighten Trump can win this
Rust belt state Michigan saw the primary results
Trump holds a huge voting margin I accept the
Protest vote of the uncommitted but Biden's tally
Was weaker than Trump..I did refer to your
Dr.Mike self help rumble with Munch scream
It reassured me about corporate media and
Their propaganda but deeply concern re. Michigan plus today Mitch McConnell stepped
Down from Senate majority leader he endorsed
Trump by this action i have been an old lefty
All my life and the Magas Trump and corporate
Capitalism billionaires Putin suppression of the vote seems to be prevailing We need another Dr
Mike session please help
Prevailing