Michael did the draft so our elected officials don’t have to strain themselves to do the necessary thinking part. To the others who commented: If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. The essence is the goal of common sense gun management, aka, allowing Americans live without fear.
I agree!!! " If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. " - the legislators will do enough of that....let's get this out in the Press...with Tons of publicity...
Guess where I recently heard what Eisenhower said, recaptured in a recording?--In Bill McGlaughlin's Exploring Music program, in the last of a weekly series, this past Friday! Unpolitical Bill! We heard it! I didn't hear it anywhere else recently.
So grateful we can share! Thank you, Michael! Now to rally to push for HR3339 National Infrastructure Bank, NIB, to repeat what Presidents Washington, Lincoln and FDR did to pay for the Revolutionary and Civil Wars and Reconstruction after the Great Depression. Call the Coalition for NIB 866 739 1791 to scheule zoom info mtg, Q&A to give our kids a bright future! Together, onward! Thank you!
Hey! That’s what you said when I told you we are going to ban smoking in every bar, restaurant, airplane and workplace in America! You also told me the Berlin Wall would never come down, Mandela would never get out of prison, the Soviet Union would be with us forever and a Black man could never get elected president of the United States! C’mon! Have a little faith! Radical change (for the good) often takes place and sometimes it’s at the snap of the fingers. You do know that we are the majority, right? And that we have the power to literally WILL things to happen, right? Stand up, speak out, organize, agitate, legislate, celebrate! Rinse! Repeat! Let’s all decide right now to climb out our rabbit holes, out of our despair, embrace the true power each of us have (which the elites and the haters don’t want us to realize we actually possess), get together with a few friends and go kick some nonviolent ass! Who’s with me?! Cuz I’m with you. 💙‼️🙅♂️🦋🌈
With all due respect, dear man, I did not. I fought for all of those things and believed they were within reach. I'll support you always, as I have ALWAYS. Maybe at 62 years of age and after having been arrested more than a hundred times for civil disobedience I am just exhausted and have lost hope. I'm not in a rabbit hole, I'll always vote with you, I'll always send you money when you ask. I'll march in my wheelchair. I just don't see this 28th Amendment passing in my lifetime. Bless you for keeping on keeping on. You have my unqualified support.
I'm with you, Michael! Always have been and continue to support you now. This amendment, though not perfect, is the very best step toward progress that exists right now. No one else has proposed anything. Giving up is not an option. I support and will work for the passage of this amendment in any way that I can--write, march, share...let me know!
I agree with you, Mike. Now, when you address Jeanmarie Simpson and tell her you told her this and that, is she really the person who through the years has told you these things, or does she actually represent all the people who did?
Yeah, I can't stand the idea that we'll never get anywhere and might as well not even try.
We are already in a civil war and there is nothing civil about it. Our politicians hate women, people of color, LGBTQ+ people and people of other religions. And now we are being killed doing our everyday activities. We are in a civil war, but the battlefield is everywhere.
Totally agree that civil war is already very much on and battlefield is everywhere. Don't believe it's politicians who hate everyone ... it's an oligarchic corporatocracy that hates anyone and anything that threatens it.
Politicians who hate: Trump, DeSantis, Greg Abbott are three of the big ones, though Trump is currently not an official politician (remember he lost the Presidential election in 2020). I am sure that y'all will come up with too many other dangerous and hateful politicians.
Having to "fear" getting pregnant is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going out to a concert or a nightclub is NOT unfounded! Having to fear sending off a child to their elementary school is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going to a market to buy dinner is NOT unfounded! Do you live under a ROCK, sir? Even the reporters tell us only about 5% of the REAL violence in this country is even reported! I think over 600 mass shootings a month is the current average! WTF!
oh... okay.. didn't make sense to me before. i get it now. you do live in a different world that informs your views. and you're totally entitled to them. we don't have to share them or even take them seriously. you don't have to take us seriously. thanks for posting this.
Michael, this is the most comprehensive, logical, and important proposal to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country I have seen or heard of. No one else has the insight or motivation to put forth a realistic response to this crisis. Other countries have accomplished more safe living conditions for their citizens; the US can do this, too. I support your efforts and pledge to help work for the passage of this amendment in any way I can--LTEs, marches, sharing information...let me know, please. And thank you for always working for the health of this country. Love you, Man.
Well, hell, heavy taxation on the guns, too ... on every facet of the rotten business!
And how about adding a section on banning any agency (like the um, NRA?) that advocates any need for every human (and child) on the planet to support a weapon?
As usual, Michael Moore has exactly the right idea. Needs a little work, but that's what the rest of us human beings are for. Saving humanity is not a one-person job. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT IDEA!
Noooo. The ERA IS THE 28th Amendment. You can propose a 29th Amendment about gun violence. Please read 6/17/22 letter to the White House counsel here. BIDEN NEEDS TO PUBLISH THE ERA. It is the 28th Amendment regardless of publishing, SCOTUS knows this and has failed their jobs and the American people by ignoring the ERA.
The 28th Amendment would effectively end the flood of gun violence that has afflicted America since its inception.
Unfortunately, its passage is an impossibility in a country not based on democratic principles. A country ruled by a minority of capitalists, gun nuts and politicians with a limitless tolerance for the deaths of innocents will ensure our status quo is maintained.
Sorry, but it will never get passed if hunters are also removed. You can't have everything. It will never get passed anyway, but it's a great idea, Michael!
We need to define the term "hunters." (1) We could establish a group of people who are licensed designated employees who hunt animals for the purpose of helping wolves and other predators maintain the numbers of animals, such as deer, in the population. (2) People who truly need to hunt deer and elk and rabbits, etc. in order to provide protein for their families can qualify, just as do folks who qualify for SNAP benefits, as another groups of "hunters."
Good idea, only this is going too far and will also go against the grains of those politically on the right side of history on most all other progressive issues. Gun ownership is something too traditional and engrained into the American psyche and will be one of the last things to be tolerated to be taken away for good. Fight for substantial background checks, mental health checks, certain associations e. g. With extremist groups, age limits for gun ownership, and keep military style weapons out of the hands of civilians. This would really go a long way.
You never know when the time has come for something. Remember when people could smoke in bars and restaurants, and it looked as if nobody could outlaw that? Well, it happened, and it's influenced people far and wide. Even in Ireland! Pubs have outlawed smoking! Believe it.!
The only way we have a chance in hell of achieving forward movement in gun control is by uniting ALL gun control groups into a single powerful organization. Over the decades (I'm really old) when I realized giving money to each new group for each new shooting was only making us weaker I stopped giving money. It was only encouraging division. If we had a single functioning gun control organization we could raise much more money and way out power the NRA. We've divided ourselves so now we are ruled by gun maniacs. Come on liberals, get it together!!
This is great. But I think one important aspect is left out, which is that, like all manufacturers of inherently dangerous items (e.g., automobiles, ladders) the gun manufacturers should bear some responsibility and should be available as a defendant in any lawsuit involving firearm damage, to whatever extent they contributed, such as improper or illegal sales practices and the fact that it was entirely foreseeable that their product might cause human injury and death. I firmly believe that this is the unstated worst case scenario that gun manufacturers are most scared of, and I also believe that it will do more to discourage improper use of firearms than anything else because it will hurt big business where it matters most, i.e,, their bottom line and with their shareholders.
Michael did the draft so our elected officials don’t have to strain themselves to do the necessary thinking part. To the others who commented: If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. The essence is the goal of common sense gun management, aka, allowing Americans live without fear.
I agree!!! " If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. " - the legislators will do enough of that....let's get this out in the Press...with Tons of publicity...
“There will be a waiting period of one month to complete the full background check.”
The waiting period should be a minimum of one month and up to six months.
No. One month.
Question our military industrial complex about which Eisenhower warned us
but we have failed to address.
Guess where I recently heard what Eisenhower said, recaptured in a recording?--In Bill McGlaughlin's Exploring Music program, in the last of a weekly series, this past Friday! Unpolitical Bill! We heard it! I didn't hear it anywhere else recently.
So grateful we can share! Thank you, Michael! Now to rally to push for HR3339 National Infrastructure Bank, NIB, to repeat what Presidents Washington, Lincoln and FDR did to pay for the Revolutionary and Civil Wars and Reconstruction after the Great Depression. Call the Coalition for NIB 866 739 1791 to scheule zoom info mtg, Q&A to give our kids a bright future! Together, onward! Thank you!
I love it. And I know it doesn't have a chance in hell of getting anywhere. :(
Hey! That’s what you said when I told you we are going to ban smoking in every bar, restaurant, airplane and workplace in America! You also told me the Berlin Wall would never come down, Mandela would never get out of prison, the Soviet Union would be with us forever and a Black man could never get elected president of the United States! C’mon! Have a little faith! Radical change (for the good) often takes place and sometimes it’s at the snap of the fingers. You do know that we are the majority, right? And that we have the power to literally WILL things to happen, right? Stand up, speak out, organize, agitate, legislate, celebrate! Rinse! Repeat! Let’s all decide right now to climb out our rabbit holes, out of our despair, embrace the true power each of us have (which the elites and the haters don’t want us to realize we actually possess), get together with a few friends and go kick some nonviolent ass! Who’s with me?! Cuz I’m with you. 💙‼️🙅♂️🦋🌈
With all due respect, dear man, I did not. I fought for all of those things and believed they were within reach. I'll support you always, as I have ALWAYS. Maybe at 62 years of age and after having been arrested more than a hundred times for civil disobedience I am just exhausted and have lost hope. I'm not in a rabbit hole, I'll always vote with you, I'll always send you money when you ask. I'll march in my wheelchair. I just don't see this 28th Amendment passing in my lifetime. Bless you for keeping on keeping on. You have my unqualified support.
"Unqualified support" should include 'talking it up' NOT disparaging it. Overcome your disappointment!
Also, MAN, I did not "disparage it," I expressed my feelings about it. Overcome your impulse to be a kneejerk ass!
When you say "It doesn't have a chance in hell", that's not exactly praising the idea. lol
That's not about the idea. That is about its chances passing in a hideously polarized legislature. LOL
bossy much?
HA! Thank you.
Yep.
Oh, golly. Thanks man. I think I've really learned something here today....
I'm with you, Michael! Always have been and continue to support you now. This amendment, though not perfect, is the very best step toward progress that exists right now. No one else has proposed anything. Giving up is not an option. I support and will work for the passage of this amendment in any way that I can--write, march, share...let me know!
I'm with you, Michael!
But I'm also so overwhelmed with the latest climate news, I am ... I can't move.
Excellent point!
I agree with you, Mike. Now, when you address Jeanmarie Simpson and tell her you told her this and that, is she really the person who through the years has told you these things, or does she actually represent all the people who did?
Yeah, I can't stand the idea that we'll never get anywhere and might as well not even try.
I took it as him assuming I am one of those naysayers from way back, which I'm not.
What I fear, gulp, is it would be seen as a “call to arms.” How do you avoid that?
Hell no. It's a call to disarm.
Yes. I fear that, too. I see civil war.
We are already in a civil war and there is nothing civil about it. Our politicians hate women, people of color, LGBTQ+ people and people of other religions. And now we are being killed doing our everyday activities. We are in a civil war, but the battlefield is everywhere.
Totally agree that civil war is already very much on and battlefield is everywhere. Don't believe it's politicians who hate everyone ... it's an oligarchic corporatocracy that hates anyone and anything that threatens it.
Politicians who hate: Trump, DeSantis, Greg Abbott are three of the big ones, though Trump is currently not an official politician (remember he lost the Presidential election in 2020). I am sure that y'all will come up with too many other dangerous and hateful politicians.
Unfounded fear!
That's what they said about women screaming that they were coming for Roe v. Wade. 'you're just being hysterical. it'll never happen.'
Right? These are absolutely dreadful times we're living.
Having to "fear" getting pregnant is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going out to a concert or a nightclub is NOT unfounded! Having to fear sending off a child to their elementary school is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going to a market to buy dinner is NOT unfounded! Do you live under a ROCK, sir? Even the reporters tell us only about 5% of the REAL violence in this country is even reported! I think over 600 mass shootings a month is the current average! WTF!
oh... okay.. didn't make sense to me before. i get it now. you do live in a different world that informs your views. and you're totally entitled to them. we don't have to share them or even take them seriously. you don't have to take us seriously. thanks for posting this.
Michael, this is the most comprehensive, logical, and important proposal to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country I have seen or heard of. No one else has the insight or motivation to put forth a realistic response to this crisis. Other countries have accomplished more safe living conditions for their citizens; the US can do this, too. I support your efforts and pledge to help work for the passage of this amendment in any way I can--LTEs, marches, sharing information...let me know, please. And thank you for always working for the health of this country. Love you, Man.
I love it.
Would it be possible to include taxation on bullets to pay for any ensuing carnage?
Well, hell, heavy taxation on the guns, too ... on every facet of the rotten business!
And how about adding a section on banning any agency (like the um, NRA?) that advocates any need for every human (and child) on the planet to support a weapon?
Wholehearted agreement with section 1. Well thought out details. Thank you!
Precise and well reasoned Michael. You have a very unique set of talents -- passion with practicality.
As usual, Michael Moore has exactly the right idea. Needs a little work, but that's what the rest of us human beings are for. Saving humanity is not a one-person job. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT IDEA!
Noooo. The ERA IS THE 28th Amendment. You can propose a 29th Amendment about gun violence. Please read 6/17/22 letter to the White House counsel here. BIDEN NEEDS TO PUBLISH THE ERA. It is the 28th Amendment regardless of publishing, SCOTUS knows this and has failed their jobs and the American people by ignoring the ERA.
https://adobe.ly/3buaFSa
The 28th Amendment would effectively end the flood of gun violence that has afflicted America since its inception.
Unfortunately, its passage is an impossibility in a country not based on democratic principles. A country ruled by a minority of capitalists, gun nuts and politicians with a limitless tolerance for the deaths of innocents will ensure our status quo is maintained.
God help America.
Never give up. I'm not going to accept naysaying.
OK, you've identified the 'enemy', now go fight them!
So sensible! It breaks my heart knowing this will not fly!😢
Nay to all the naysayers.
Sorry, but it will never get passed if hunters are also removed. You can't have everything. It will never get passed anyway, but it's a great idea, Michael!
We need to define the term "hunters." (1) We could establish a group of people who are licensed designated employees who hunt animals for the purpose of helping wolves and other predators maintain the numbers of animals, such as deer, in the population. (2) People who truly need to hunt deer and elk and rabbits, etc. in order to provide protein for their families can qualify, just as do folks who qualify for SNAP benefits, as another groups of "hunters."
I agree only on the people, like Inuit, who have to hunt for food and clothing.
Oh, stop. Never try to quench a good idea.
Good idea, only this is going too far and will also go against the grains of those politically on the right side of history on most all other progressive issues. Gun ownership is something too traditional and engrained into the American psyche and will be one of the last things to be tolerated to be taken away for good. Fight for substantial background checks, mental health checks, certain associations e. g. With extremist groups, age limits for gun ownership, and keep military style weapons out of the hands of civilians. This would really go a long way.
You never know when the time has come for something. Remember when people could smoke in bars and restaurants, and it looked as if nobody could outlaw that? Well, it happened, and it's influenced people far and wide. Even in Ireland! Pubs have outlawed smoking! Believe it.!
The only way we have a chance in hell of achieving forward movement in gun control is by uniting ALL gun control groups into a single powerful organization. Over the decades (I'm really old) when I realized giving money to each new group for each new shooting was only making us weaker I stopped giving money. It was only encouraging division. If we had a single functioning gun control organization we could raise much more money and way out power the NRA. We've divided ourselves so now we are ruled by gun maniacs. Come on liberals, get it together!!
This is great. But I think one important aspect is left out, which is that, like all manufacturers of inherently dangerous items (e.g., automobiles, ladders) the gun manufacturers should bear some responsibility and should be available as a defendant in any lawsuit involving firearm damage, to whatever extent they contributed, such as improper or illegal sales practices and the fact that it was entirely foreseeable that their product might cause human injury and death. I firmly believe that this is the unstated worst case scenario that gun manufacturers are most scared of, and I also believe that it will do more to discourage improper use of firearms than anything else because it will hurt big business where it matters most, i.e,, their bottom line and with their shareholders.