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Michael did the draft so our elected officials don’t have to strain themselves to do the necessary thinking part. To the others who commented: If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. The essence is the goal of common sense gun management, aka, allowing Americans live without fear.

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I agree!!! " If we are fans of MM, let us not nitpick the details. " - the legislators will do enough of that....let's get this out in the Press...with Tons of publicity...

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Remove (a) licensed hunters of game; and I’ll vote for it. We don’t need to abuse and shoot wildlife but need to protect it.

#Ditch2A to #StopGunViolence

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Hunters aren't conservationists, they just use this as a sorry excuse for their bloody wildlife abuse and murder.  🌎https://exposingthebiggame.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/yes-hunters-are-psychopaths-and-sport-hunting-is-serial-killing/

#animalrights #crueltyfree 

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Agree. It’s toxic masculinity at its best.

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Right. By the way, I can't "heart" any of the comments today.

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Just refresh the page :)

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thank you!!!

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That’s not really true! There are bad hunters who kill for the thrill and trophies only, and there are hunter’s who take care of certain wildlife populations in particular areas to keep their numbers in balance with the space’s capability of food procurement. Ethical hunting is helpful and doesn’t lead to the extinction of species! In fact, those who practice it, don’t hunt endangered wildlife species because they also know about the importance of particular species for the environment.

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This amendment should omit no one! "Hunters"is NOT a viable category for exemption. We've gone by the age of hunting animals!

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Y’all must live in the city. The Texas Hill Country is so over-run with white tail deer, it’s dangerous to drive at night. Humans have created unbalanced environments and we have to control the populations of these prey animals or they’ll starve to death. There’s a large population of hunters in Texas who hunt for meat, not for sport.

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Wolves take care of that issue in a respectful and quite useful manner - better than any "human". Wolves know through smell if an animal like deer are sick. When the program in 1987 by the US Wildlife Service in the Northern Rockies - allowed Wolves into Yellowstone National Park - It was to restore the environment and balance the animal populations that existed. And it worked. Sadly, and wrongfully, people still reject the reason the Wolf should thrive as well as other Apex predators because humans are still frightened by the fairytale mindset that wolves are evil - But Humans are not equipped for the balancing of Nature and are a poor substitution.

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Well Texas eradicated wolves and they’re working on coyotes. Good luck introducing wolf packs to the Texas Hill Country. But go ahead and continue to deny that we evolved hunting prey and it serves a useful purpose. I live among people who can’t afford to eat meat other than what they hunt so I’m unwilling to get behind a hunting ban. Michael Moore’s plan is very sensible and one we should get behind.

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Yeah, we sure don't have any wolves around. Now, i know why. Didn't know they're working on coyotes, too. Wow. I hear you on how expensive food is these days. Did you know? Eating animal carcass is not required for humans. Some of us are just fine and healthy without eating any animals ever. Thanks for explaining. We're just south of you... in the city. Agree that MM's plan is sensible and i'm for it, too. Would love hunting ban... though i doubt any of this is likely to happen, as nice as it would be to live in the country with this 28th amendment.

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We also have people here who hunt to last them through the winter months depending on where they live. I am not suggesting nobody hunts for food. Survival hunting is much different than someone, a hunter for example, who cannot see if an animal is sick but kill en masse, just to make sure - including the much misunderstood wolf and even coyotes who are not friends with the wolf. Wolves don't like humans and do not want to eat them - they run from humans. Wolves DO however know when an animal is sick before that "prey" shows symptoms so humans too, do not become ill. They have been doing it for millennia.

Estes Park Colorado has an over population of Mule Deer and our Governor Polis has restored the Wolf to the Northern Rockies because of the Wolf's abilities to take care of the environment and its imbalances.

Peace to you, Miss Kristie!

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Thank you, Monica! That is Nature's way ... we are so incredibly ignorant and arrogant in thinking we can do better!

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M'all doesn't live in the city! I grew up in Maine where's there's just as many or more per capita hunters as there is in Texas. I maintain that we've gone by the stage where we have to hunt animals for food. That was fine in the early days of the Republic when food was scarce--such is not the case now. Nature does a splendid job of regulating animal life if allowed to function.

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Since I live among people who can’t afford to eat meat unless they hunt it or can grow it themselves, I still disagree with you. But Maine is on my list of places to visit. I hear it’s beautiful!

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Right. Nature has its own ways of controlling animal populations. For instance, there are wolves that hunt deer. Why, then, are wolves being shot, too? It's inhuman and it endangers the species.

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I want to add one point. I find this error all the time. "Per capita" means "per person." "Capita" means "head." You can't have so many hunters per capita, because it means hunters per person, and that's impossible. Probably you mean a percentage.

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We have them here in SATX, too. Shooting them is not the answer. Humans created the problems and destroyed habitat. Humans can come up with more 'balanced' ways to resolve this without killing and violence.

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As I said in another reply, I don't think hunting is the way to do this.

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And you have all those wild hogs in TX, too. 😂😉

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Sadly, that's the reason a woman gave me, as to why they shouldn't ban assault rifles, because they need them to shoot wild hogs. Apparently, it doesn't matter that they can also kill a room full of 1st graders in under 14 seconds.

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I agree they don’t need assault rifles but they do need hunting rifles.

I’m neither a firearm enthusiast or a hunter and I really love animals but the hogs, as humorous as it all seems, are highly destructive and dangerous.

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I don’t know what that means, could you explain. Why wouldn’t hunters be a category of citizens to possess a legal firearm? Before shoot a pheasant roosters only, how do you check the age before you pull the trigger?

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The answer lies in the sentence that follows---We're long past the stage where we have to kill animals to survive.

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Are you including factory "farm" animals who are also killed in order to provide 99% of the meat eaten in the U.S.? We're long past the age when we had to hunt animals but that doesn't mean the killing has stopped.

If everyone had to hunt, kill and butcher their own meat, there would be a lot more vegetarians.

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Christian M: And how do you propose to tell one from the other? Not all trophy hunters are exposed -- like the asinine dentist who traveled all the way to Africa to shoot a tame and friendly park lion. I think Mother Nature -- who has taken care of all species of life for about four billion years -- has done a good job so far -- except maybe for US. And she is well on her way to extinct us!

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Luz: Thank you! I honor your statement. I did not intend a "blanket" statement that would ignore the traditions of the First Nations. I lived amongst the Navajo for many years, and I am familiar with Native American traditions. If only ALL hunters were so respectful (and all farmers, as far as that goes) with the provisions that our Mother gives to us. The white man's treatment of even domestic animals (and fowl) is horrendous. Exceptions for all Indigenous tribes for their right to hunt and fish would be honored. Plus those of any rural people who do rely on hunting for much-needed food. But in this modern country, I do not know how many in the latter category would qualify on that basis. I suggest there would be some requirement for proof of need given, such as remote address and lack of access to a near-by food market. Anybody else with suggestions?

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Remarkable how anyone who "prays and makes offerings" has the nerve to refer to others as "ignorant". As for the "thousands of years", they should have been used to 'advance' instead of remaining grounded in ignorance.

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Thomas C: I do not know you, but based on this statement alone, I do not care to know you. It is biased and bigoted, and totally disgraceful.

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Seems you're able to discern a great deal more in my brief comments 'about someone else's lack of charity'. That capacity is no doubt the product of your Ph.d. which you feel the need to brandish to give additional weight to your intemperate mutterings.

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I presume that I'm biased, bigoted and disgraceful in the same amount as I shatter your ignorant, childish and fearful 'beliefs'. Be assured that I share your feelings about 'knowing' you.

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You, sir, have a pretty poor grasp of the concept of cultural diversity, to say nothing of your idea of what it is to "advance ".

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I readily accept the concept of cultural diversity because it is (brace yourself) based on evidence. What I need not accept is ignorance, from wherever it derives.

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You're entitled to your opinion,, for whatever that's worth.

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In order to get the amendment to “pass,” I think this provision for hunters would have to be included.

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All that's necessary is to add a few words, viz. 'Licensed hunters of game who eat what they kill'. I live in a rural area and quite a few folks here put meat on their tables that way.

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“There will be a waiting period of one month to complete the full background check.”

The waiting period should be a minimum of one month and up to six months.

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No. One month.

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Question our military industrial complex about which Eisenhower warned us

but we have failed to address.

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Guess where I recently heard what Eisenhower said, recaptured in a recording?--In Bill McGlaughlin's Exploring Music program, in the last of a weekly series, this past Friday! Unpolitical Bill! We heard it! I didn't hear it anywhere else recently.

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So grateful we can share! Thank you, Michael! Now to rally to push for HR3339 National Infrastructure Bank, NIB, to repeat what Presidents Washington, Lincoln and FDR did to pay for the Revolutionary and Civil Wars and Reconstruction after the Great Depression. Call the Coalition for NIB 866 739 1791 to scheule zoom info mtg, Q&A to give our kids a bright future! Together, onward! Thank you!

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I love it. And I know it doesn't have a chance in hell of getting anywhere. :(

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Hey! That’s what you said when I told you we are going to ban smoking in every bar, restaurant, airplane and workplace in America! You also told me the Berlin Wall would never come down, Mandela would never get out of prison, the Soviet Union would be with us forever and a Black man could never get elected president of the United States! C’mon! Have a little faith! Radical change (for the good) often takes place and sometimes it’s at the snap of the fingers. You do know that we are the majority, right? And that we have the power to literally WILL things to happen, right? Stand up, speak out, organize, agitate, legislate, celebrate! Rinse! Repeat! Let’s all decide right now to climb out our rabbit holes, out of our despair, embrace the true power each of us have (which the elites and the haters don’t want us to realize we actually possess), get together with a few friends and go kick some nonviolent ass! Who’s with me?! Cuz I’m with you. 💙‼️🙅‍♂️🦋🌈

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With all due respect, dear man, I did not. I fought for all of those things and believed they were within reach. I'll support you always, as I have ALWAYS. Maybe at 62 years of age and after having been arrested more than a hundred times for civil disobedience I am just exhausted and have lost hope. I'm not in a rabbit hole, I'll always vote with you, I'll always send you money when you ask. I'll march in my wheelchair. I just don't see this 28th Amendment passing in my lifetime. Bless you for keeping on keeping on. You have my unqualified support.

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"Unqualified support" should include 'talking it up' NOT disparaging it. Overcome your disappointment!

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Also, MAN, I did not "disparage it," I expressed my feelings about it. Overcome your impulse to be a kneejerk ass!

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When you say "It doesn't have a chance in hell", that's not exactly praising the idea. lol

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That's not about the idea. That is about its chances passing in a hideously polarized legislature. LOL

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bossy much?

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HA! Thank you.

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Oh, golly. Thanks man. I think I've really learned something here today....

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I'm with you, Michael! Always have been and continue to support you now. This amendment, though not perfect, is the very best step toward progress that exists right now. No one else has proposed anything. Giving up is not an option. I support and will work for the passage of this amendment in any way that I can--write, march, share...let me know!

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I'm with you, Michael!

But I'm also so overwhelmed with the latest climate news, I am ... I can't move.

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Excellent point!

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I agree with you, Mike. Now, when you address Jeanmarie Simpson and tell her you told her this and that, is she really the person who through the years has told you these things, or does she actually represent all the people who did?

Yeah, I can't stand the idea that we'll never get anywhere and might as well not even try.

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I took it as him assuming I am one of those naysayers from way back, which I'm not.

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What I fear, gulp, is it would be seen as a “call to arms.” How do you avoid that?

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Hell no. It's a call to disarm.

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Yes. I fear that, too. I see civil war.

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We are already in a civil war and there is nothing civil about it. Our politicians hate women, people of color, LGBTQ+ people and people of other religions. And now we are being killed doing our everyday activities. We are in a civil war, but the battlefield is everywhere.

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Totally agree that civil war is already very much on and battlefield is everywhere. Don't believe it's politicians who hate everyone ... it's an oligarchic corporatocracy that hates anyone and anything that threatens it.

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Politicians who hate: Trump, DeSantis, Greg Abbott are three of the big ones, though Trump is currently not an official politician (remember he lost the Presidential election in 2020). I am sure that y'all will come up with too many other dangerous and hateful politicians.

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Unfounded fear!

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That's what they said about women screaming that they were coming for Roe v. Wade. 'you're just being hysterical. it'll never happen.'

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Right? These are absolutely dreadful times we're living.

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Having to "fear" getting pregnant is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going out to a concert or a nightclub is NOT unfounded! Having to fear sending off a child to their elementary school is NOT unfounded! Having to fear going to a market to buy dinner is NOT unfounded! Do you live under a ROCK, sir? Even the reporters tell us only about 5% of the REAL violence in this country is even reported! I think over 600 mass shootings a month is the current average! WTF!

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oh... okay.. didn't make sense to me before. i get it now. you do live in a different world that informs your views. and you're totally entitled to them. we don't have to share them or even take them seriously. you don't have to take us seriously. thanks for posting this.

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Michael, this is the most comprehensive, logical, and important proposal to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country I have seen or heard of. No one else has the insight or motivation to put forth a realistic response to this crisis. Other countries have accomplished more safe living conditions for their citizens; the US can do this, too. I support your efforts and pledge to help work for the passage of this amendment in any way I can--LTEs, marches, sharing information...let me know, please. And thank you for always working for the health of this country. Love you, Man.

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I love it.

Would it be possible to include taxation on bullets to pay for any ensuing carnage?

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Well, hell, heavy taxation on the guns, too ... on every facet of the rotten business!

And how about adding a section on banning any agency (like the um, NRA?) that advocates any need for every human (and child) on the planet to support a weapon?

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Wholehearted agreement with section 1. Well thought out details. Thank you!

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Precise and well reasoned Michael. You have a very unique set of talents -- passion with practicality.

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As usual, Michael Moore has exactly the right idea. Needs a little work, but that's what the rest of us human beings are for. Saving humanity is not a one-person job. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT IDEA!

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Noooo. The ERA IS THE 28th Amendment. You can propose a 29th Amendment about gun violence. Please read 6/17/22 letter to the White House counsel here. BIDEN NEEDS TO PUBLISH THE ERA. It is the 28th Amendment regardless of publishing, SCOTUS knows this and has failed their jobs and the American people by ignoring the ERA.

https://adobe.ly/3buaFSa

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The 28th Amendment would effectively end the flood of gun violence that has afflicted America since its inception.

Unfortunately, its passage is an impossibility in a country not based on democratic principles. A country ruled by a minority of capitalists, gun nuts and politicians with a limitless tolerance for the deaths of innocents will ensure our status quo is maintained.

God help America.

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Never give up. I'm not going to accept naysaying.

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OK, you've identified the 'enemy', now go fight them!

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So sensible! It breaks my heart knowing this will not fly!😢

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Nay to all the naysayers.

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Sorry, but it will never get passed if hunters are also removed. You can't have everything. It will never get passed anyway, but it's a great idea, Michael!

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We need to define the term "hunters." (1) We could establish a group of people who are licensed designated employees who hunt animals for the purpose of helping wolves and other predators maintain the numbers of animals, such as deer, in the population. (2) People who truly need to hunt deer and elk and rabbits, etc. in order to provide protein for their families can qualify, just as do folks who qualify for SNAP benefits, as another groups of "hunters."

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I agree only on the people, like Inuit, who have to hunt for food and clothing.

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Oh, stop. Never try to quench a good idea.

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Good idea, only this is going too far and will also go against the grains of those politically on the right side of history on most all other progressive issues. Gun ownership is something too traditional and engrained into the American psyche and will be one of the last things to be tolerated to be taken away for good. Fight for substantial background checks, mental health checks, certain associations e. g. With extremist groups, age limits for gun ownership, and keep military style weapons out of the hands of civilians. This would really go a long way.

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You never know when the time has come for something. Remember when people could smoke in bars and restaurants, and it looked as if nobody could outlaw that? Well, it happened, and it's influenced people far and wide. Even in Ireland! Pubs have outlawed smoking! Believe it.!

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The only way we have a chance in hell of achieving forward movement in gun control is by uniting ALL gun control groups into a single powerful organization. Over the decades (I'm really old) when I realized giving money to each new group for each new shooting was only making us weaker I stopped giving money. It was only encouraging division. If we had a single functioning gun control organization we could raise much more money and way out power the NRA. We've divided ourselves so now we are ruled by gun maniacs. Come on liberals, get it together!!

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