OK. I get it. Sort of. Though until the system allows for a viable third party, a vote for Stein like in 2016 or a vote for Nader like in 2000 can have serious unintended consequences. I don't think we can take anything for granted this time around.
You seem not to think we have no serious consequences now. Well, the fact we are voting against a gangster and with a party supporting a murderous ethnic cleansing says otherwise. No real democracy is doing this.
Hillary lost in 2016 because she didn't go into the states that would have given her the electoral vote....she won the popular vote....but against the wishes of her campaign she refused to go into those states that might have given her the electoral vote........Hillary lost by her own sorry self........"Trump won the presidency by clinching 304 electoral votes, well over the minimum 270 needed. Clinton won 227 electoral votes"....it is the Electoral College that puts someone in the WH......https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-officially-wins-popular-vote-29-million/story?id=44354341
This is what people don't understand. If there are even any Palestinians left alive in all of "Israel" when the next president is inaugurated, it will be a miracle.
There are 2 million 'Palestinians' in Gaza. There are another 2 million or so Israeli Arabs. They are 20% of the Israeli population. and no one is harming them except maybe Hamas or Hizbullah. Being Arab gives you no immunity to Islamist weapons. And back to Gaza; do you know what percentage 40,000 out of 2 million is. TWO. The ignorance out of which some people yap about this is nothing short of abysmal!
So comforted by your perspective. Of course actually the 40,000 number you cite are the direct deaths caused by bombs. The number of deaths due to the utter destruction of everything in Gaza is believed to be over 160,000. Shucks that's 8%. A pittance. (That would be like 30 million Americans, or ten thousand 911 attacks. We went to war for 20 years over just one 911 attack. Since you like precise numbers and percentages so much, I guess Palestinians will have to make war against Israelis and their supporters for two hundred thousand years.)
sure that means we got it wrong and we shouldn't care... Man if these were Israelis the media would be overwhelmed with their important stories !!!! But they are ONLY Palestinians and yes as you say, we dont need to care at all. (in real terms it is estimated now that when the journalist embargo is lifted it will be clear how many more have died due to disease, malnutrition, disappeared and in prisons : right now about 200,000.
The trust of both of you in the 'statistics' Hamas, an outfit which uses its own people, ESPECIALLY children, as shields for its cowardly murderers, is so very touching! And too many UNRWA officials are also Hamas operatives! Or are they statistics that you yourselves want to believe? I very much doubt you'd have given the same credence to the 'rumors' of exterminations coming from Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc., had you been alive then!
Nope - I live in a state that will go for Harris - so my vote to a third party is a clear protest vote without changing a Trump reelection. Many of us in deep blue states can do this. It has to be stated !!! Nothing else is working.. UNCOMMITTED or Jill Stein
why are you so sure about that? re your state?.....your vote for Jill Stein could be the tie breaker for Democracy....currently we do not have a Democracy and it will continue under Kamala as an oligarchy/fascist state~....we have a US congress that is bought and paid for by AIPAC...huge industries $$$$ to those in office~thanks to the Supreme Court that upheld big business = Citizens United~pumping money into the campaigns of those who do what they are told to do~
This is the only way. And, in fact, enough people to tank her campaign have already told her this, and her stance hasn't changed. (Nor has the party's)
Everyone in Gaza will be dead by the end of her campaign. Hers and Biden's administration could've stopped this genocide at any second by refusing to send bombs and money. I don't listen to what they say. I watch what they do.
The thing is Biden could turn off the $$$$$$$ and the weapons.....but he seems fine with Genocide...Biden received 5 million dollars plus from "Israel"/ AIPAC Kamala could do the same thing...turn off the $$$$$ and the weapons" but she has said she won't stop the Genocide..Kamala and Walz are big supporters of Israel....they will continue with sending $$$$$ and weapons to Israel...because their big corporate donors want them to.....we are not a democracy....."The Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United that corporations and special interests have a "free speech" right to pump millions of dollars into "our" "elections" often in complete secrecy". AIPAC "owns" most of the US Congress....so that Reps and Senators vote the way AIPAC wants them to........Now why do you think that, having Invited Palestinians to the DNC...then blocked them from entering the DNC..."The Uncommitted movement represents the at least 700,000 individuals who cast protest votes against Joe Biden during the presidential primary to demand a ceasefire in Gaza. They hoped that at the DNC, just one of the many Palestinian speakers they proposed would be allowed to give a speech on the main stage. Not a single Palestinian American was given a speaking slot on the convention stage all week. Instead, Georgia State Representative Ruwa Romman gave a speech outside the convention center. “We all wanted to come to a place of unity and a place of ‘yes’,” says Rep. Romman. “I don't really know where to go from here, to be quite honest.”."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GCipUTUxRM
yes they're sell outs to AIPAC like most Republican congress people and many middle road Dems who are pro-israel ; and to the crazy Nationalist Christian cults.
If what you say is true, about the Palestinians all being dead by the end of her campaign, then there is nothing anyone can do to save them short of the Israeli's removing Netanyahu from power.
I am watching what you do.
You are trying to sabotage her campaign even though she is the ONLY one in the picture who has not done anything to harm anyone with the possible exception of snubbing Netanyahu when he came to America to meet with Donald Trump.
Turman, Regan and Bush seernior all picked up the phone and told Bibi (and his predecessor) "NO" and he didn't ! Biden could have done that any day but he's a coward living in the 1950s - Harris wants the AIPAC vote, clearly.
1)Standing up for Genocide goes against International laws~
2) Israel knew from their own troops, 2 months before the music festival happened, that something planned re Hamas....Israel leaders chose to not do anything about info they had....the day of the festival.... as the Hamas assault began there were people of the Jewish faith taking refuge in a house nearby....Israel used their Hannibal Directive (which means Israel killed its own citizens)....to prevent them from becoming hostages.....
It endorses most of the GOP representatives who voted to overturn the Electoral College results—but not pro-Israel hawk Liz Cheney.
by Eric Alterman
April 29, 2022
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Then–Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at the 2016 AIPAC Policy Conference at the Verizon Center, March 21, 2016, in Washington.
AIPAC has been in the news lately, and not in a good way. After decades of pretending that it would not know a political contribution if it bumped into one and broke its nose, it ended the charade and announced in December 2021 that it would be creating a super PAC to donate directly to congressional candidates. Having raised nearly $16 million in its first quarter of existence, it has now endorsed 109 of the 147 Republican congressmen who supported Donald Trump’s campaign to try to overturn the Electoral College’s results on January 6th, along with a few Democrats. “Our goal is to make America’s friendship with Israel so robust, so certain, so broadly based, and so dependable that even the deep divisions of American politics can never imperil that relationship and the ability of the Jewish state to defend itself,” it explains.
In a Boston Globe op-ed by Alan Solomont and Nancy Buck (both associated with J Street), however, we learn that “AIPAC’s new endorsees include such allies of Donald Trump as Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, who refuses to cooperate with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol; Representative Pete Sessions of Texas, who met with ‘Stop the Steal’ leaders just days before the insurrection; and Representative Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, who has echoed white nationalist conspiracies about ‘replacement theory’ and compared Democratic leaders to the Nazis.”
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And guess which Republican AIPAC apparently forgot to include? That’s right. The rather crazily “pro-Israel” Liz Cheney is being blackballed. In the past, Cheney has taken the AIPAC line down the line. Even before she was in Congress, she represented the Republican Party at an AIPAC Policy Conference panel and (falsely) complained of Obama: “There is no president who has done more to delegitimize and destabilize the State of Israel in recent history than President Obama.” She also attacked Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, in a manner consistent with AIPAC’s attacks on them. But now, apparently because she’s become persona non grata with the people out to destroy American democracy, she’s getting stiffed.
ridiculous comment.. I do not live in a country under Hamas.. I voted for Biden as our democratic leader who should listen to the people. Moreover my country is complicit in this genocide and has the leverage to halt it in 10 minutes if they chose to!!
The pro-Israel, Evangelical Money Helping Bankroll Trump's Latest Presidential Run
Evangelical Texas oil executive Tim Dunn is one of the most conspicuous recent donors to Donald Trump's election campaign. He is joined by a few familiar names of pro-Israel Jewish businessmen undeterred by Trump's isolationist chokehold on the GOP
The Pro-Israel Donor With a $100 Million Plan to Elect Trump
Miriam Adelson long operated in the shadow of her powerful husband, Sheldon Adelson. Now, after his death, she is playing in politics as a solo practitioner for the first time.
Now you're being the Michael Moore that I have always loved (and will always love). Yes! My wife and will do that. We're so fortunate to be able to do that. Most people can't, but geez, even if every working person could give $5 as a gesture of international working class solidarity that would be so great.
Thank you for this info.: the P.C.R.F. I shall be donating!!
Kamala H. has declared 2x's (first @ the Convention and afterwards in her infamous and only "interview" with Stahl (?) that she stands with Zionist Israel (as well as repeating the debunked Israeli propaganda about the "RAPE" victims on "Oct. 7".) Kamala is "more of the same". She is a fraud and will be a patsy if elected. Americans have projected their wishful thinking on this woman. We will be betrayed by her if she wins the Presidency. ....¡May I be proven wrong! Thank you. Keep advocating for what is right! 🙏🏽 (/Caroline McCabe; 80 yrs.)
She is in a difficult position. Still VP to a deluded old man and his policy. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. We KNOW the danger of her opponent.
Kamala was anointed the run....she didn't run against anyone...to be possibly elected to President of the US....anointed by big business, the billionaires, and AIPAC.....There is another person running for President.....Jill Stein....check her out if you haven't yet....voting for evil because the other person is evil...is really not good for the country...you know Kamala is going to follow orders from handlers and do what they tell her to do.........
Of course she will stand with "Zionist" Israel. Do you expect her to stand with Hamas and Iran, avowed enemies of the United States? I doubt that Harris is a fraud. How, pray tell will we be betrayed by her. No evidence of it.
The Gaza situation is a no win situation for the U.S.. Biden has been pushing back on Netanyahu but it is up to the Israeli people to kick out Netanyahu. Neither Biden nor the U.S.can do that. Weare on the cusp of a critical election and if Biden dtops any support, the Dems will lose support from many Jewish voters which can cost the elect. Then we would wind up with Trump which would be disastrous. So please do not be so naive to think that you have all the answers . This is a complex situation and Biden is doing all he can to try to get a cease fire. Even Egypt and Quitar are trying.
All you are doing with your rhetoric is losing votes for the Dems. Please stop it.
If Biden was really pushing back...this would have been over on Oct 8th~ But Biden does not push back to stop the Genocide.....Biden says "Please stop" but Israel continues the slaughter of Palestinians.....if Biden stopped sending our tax dollars and weapons of mass killing and destruction of infrastructure...the Genocide would stop~ people will vote for who they want in office...you will vote for Kamala....I will vote for Jill Stein....although we are not a real democracy...because it is the electoral college that puts a person in the White House...I would rather vote for a candidate that would put the interests of the people of they United States rather than aiding and abetting the Genocide of Palestinians..ps Biden has received over 5 million dollars from Israel and their PACS over the years...you can check that out if you wish~ May there be Peace
Wow Marjorie, has it ever crossed your mind that Hamas bears any responsibility for the harm that is coming to its civilians? You do realize that Hamas draws fire toward civilians by launching rockets at Israeli civilians knowing that it was draw return fire and kill civilians? Do you or any of your friends on this page see that you should be holding Hamas accountable as well? Do you ever consider that instead of letting Palestinian women and children use the tunnels they spent all their US aid on to build for their protection, Hamas purposely leaves the women and children out in the open to get killed while they alone protect themselves in the tunnels? Do you every think about why that is? There will never be peace if you don't start calling out the vicious killers on the other side of this. Also try to think the all of it through--if you were to get Israel disarmed, and the Palestinians take it over, the Hamas death cultists will begin killing their own, just as what happens in Iran, Syria and every other country run by Islamic fundamentalists. It's time for thinking people to think. Thank you.
Do you remember what the US did to the Middle East~
"The United States did go to war with Iraq soon enough. The Bush administration was eager to mobilize the anguish of the 9/11 attack to support the war. Despite the intelligence community’s unequivocal conclusion that Iraq had nothing to do with either 9/11 or al-Qaida, the administration let Americans believe the contrary. Consequently, the United States went to war in Iraq on a false pretense that it was somehow avenging those killed by al-Qaida. A Washington Post poll conducted two years after 9/11 dramatically illustrated the story: 69% of Americans at the time believed Saddam Hussein was “personally” involved in the 9/11 attack. Even more staggering, 82% believed Saddam provided assistance to Osama bin Laden. Both were utterly false." https://www.brookings.edu/articles/9-11-and-iraq-the-making-of-a-tragedy/
I too agree 100%. The President of the United States leads a democracy, not an autocracy and there is only so much any person in the Oval Office can do while weathering all the adverse political gales. I would have had Biden push back much more severely against Netanyahu, but then, who knows what the consequences would be? Not me, at least.
That said, I do think it's time for the United States to start obeying its own laws, particular the laws we have in place for not sending weapons to nations that commit war crimes. The USA will only be damaged by holding onto an alliance that forces us to violate our own laws.
I would not suggest ending our tactical relationship with Israel (whatever it is). I simply haven't the expertise to offer suggestions of that scale. But if we are to have an alliance with Israel, it must be a responsible one and one that supports common values--notably internationally agreed rules of governing. Any alliance we have must build a better more secure world. It is no good for the USA to become a moral contortion artist and mindless cheerleader in a relationship with any other nation on Earth. It's up to the US to establish clear boundaries in any tactical relationship--boundaries that support human rights for all people and cooperative peace for all nations.
The US is not an ally to Israel....we are funding Israel and providing weapons to Israel to enable Israel to ethnically "cleanse" Palestinians...ie Israel is committing genocide of Palestinians....the ICC and the ICJ have judged that Israel IS committing Genocide~ the US is complicit in Genocide... we are not ""allies"" the US is co-opted by Israel...via AIPAC and Billionaires that "buy" the members of the US Congress and the US Presidency .....Biden has received more that five million dollars from Israel/ PACs...we do not have a democracy......additionally...now ...we see senior officers in the IDF resigning
and hundreds of thousands of Israelis in the streets of Israel to get rid of Net. the Palestinians have been under occupation for more than 75 years...by Israel...Palestinians have a right to self defense...May there be Peace~
actually ...we are not really a democracy......the voters get to cast their vote at the ballot box...hopefully...there is a lot out there happening to rig the vote....that is happening....it is not the votes of regular folks that puts someone in the White House....it is the Electoral College that puts a person in the WH.....the 2016 race (Hill vs Don)...Hillary decided not to campaign in states that had a "large population of Palestinians and Muslims " against the wishes of her managers.....HIllary won the popular vote by 120,000 votes.....but she lost the Electoral vote...because Trump did go into those states that Hillary did not go into~Right now....AIPAC gives funds to US Congress People....to buy their votes....and also Big Money Billionaires and huge Companies have more say in the outcome of Votes on US congress floor than votes of ordinary people ..because Big Money influences how Congress votes~~~~~~~it's more like an Oligarchy than a Democracy....Oligarchy= "a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution:" May there be Peace~
I’ve been a liberal Democrat since I was 5 years old. On 9/11/2001 I refused to condemn an entire religion over the actions of what I believed then was a small minority of religious zealots.
I’m not so sure anymore. They defend HAMAS?!! They would gamble with a trump presidency?
How about we send @POTUS about 20,000 messages on the platform formally known as Twitter and ask for our $356 back. We will expect it as a tax refund immediately.
I want mine back too. The problem was laid out by Thomas Friedman (not my favorite journalist) in yesterday’s NYT, wherein he expose Bibi’s plan to sabotage our election with the goal of getting his buddy Trump back in. Then, like Trump, he will be able to hang on to power forever. He’s a Middle Eastern Machiavelli who deals only in bad faith. He hasn’t the slightest intention of permitting a cease-fire except on the most egregious conditions and certainly not until our election takes place. He’ll easily weather out a few more days or even weeks of the current protests. Should Harris prevail, I believe his days will be numbered because she sees right through him and won’t let him continue to get away with the free ride he’s had with Biden. But his plan, perceptively analyzed by Friedman, has the potential for wreaking havoc in the election. I pray that it will fail and that Harris will ultimately hold him fully accountable for his nefarious policies.
Do you (and apparently most people on this page) actually have so much confidence in an Islamic fundamentalist terror death cult like Hamas that you believe that some other person were president of Israel, everything would be fine? Can everyone please wake up and stop looking at this problem from one side??? I will give you the point that Netanyahu may not be the right person for the job on the Israel side, but I am not sure that a different person changes this equation AT ALL.... we must wake up and look at who is on the other side, and it is not pretty. They don't care for the women and children you all seem so concerned about. They steal all the aid for themselves and use it to build a terror tunnel network larger than the London Tube, and then use it for their own protection while purposely leaving their women and children out in harms way. Not mention they throw gays off of buildings and I could go on. If you are hoping for peace, it's very unrealistic to think if only Bibi were replaced we get to Koombaya. Michael has made this way to simple of a calculus.
(/rəˈbiːn/;[1] Hebrew: יִצְחָק רַבִּין, IPA: [jitsˈχak ʁaˈbin] ⓘ; 1 March 1922 – 4 November 1995) was an Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth prime minister of Israel, serving two terms in office, 1974–1977, and from 1992 until his assassination in 1995.
Rabin was born in Jerusalem to Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe and was raised in a Labor Zionist household. He learned agriculture in school and excelled as a student. He led a 27-year career as a soldier and ultimately attained the rank of Rav Aluf, the most senior rank in the Israeli Defense Force (often translated as lieutenant general). As a teenager he joined the Palmach, the commando force of the Yishuv. He eventually rose through its ranks to become its chief of operations during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. He joined the newly formed Israel Defense Forces in late 1948 and continued to rise as a promising officer. He helped shape the training doctrine of the IDF in the early 1950s, and led the IDF's Operations Directorate from 1959 to 1963. He was appointed chief of the general staff in 1964 and oversaw Israel's victory in the 1967 Six-Day War.
Rabin served as Israel's ambassador to the United States from 1968 to 1973, during a period of deepening U.S.–Israel ties. He was appointed Prime Minister of Israel in 1974 after the resignation of Golda Meir. In his first term, Rabin signed the Sinai Interim Agreement and ordered the Entebbe raid. He resigned in 1977 in the wake of a financial scandal. Rabin was Israel's minister of defense for much of the 1980s, including during the outbreak of the First Intifada.
In 1992, Rabin was re-elected as prime minister on a platform embracing the Israeli–Palestinian peace process. He signed several historic agreements with the Palestinian leadership as part of the Oslo Accords. In 1994, Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize together with long-time political rival Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Rabin also signed a peace treaty with Jordan in 1994. In November 1995, he was assassinated by Yigal Amir, an extremist who opposed the terms of the Oslo Accords. Amir was convicted of Rabin's murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. Rabin was the first native-born prime minister of Israel, the only prime minister to be assassinated, and the second to die in office after Levi Eshkol. Rabin has become a symbol of the Israeli–Palestinian peace process.
The problem with your rational is, that Palestinians have been under occupation for 75 years......Many people around world SEE that Palestinians in Gaza live in open air prison.... Palestinians now live in the zone of death, destruction, of everything ~housing gone, medical care gone, schools/universities gone, Holy Sites gone, food~Palestinians are being tortured by being told they have to move to a different place to be safe...and the Israel bombs in the "safe place"..most recently...a 30 foot deep hole in the ground where families were living in tents...in place that Israel said would be safe...Israel has done this multiple times over this year..Israel with total support of the US Govt is committing Genocide/Ethnic Cleansing which are against International law.....Sad that you can't see their suffering...there right to live...raise their children...be able to feed their children and themselves....Silly Silly you...I feel sorry for you~
Don’t feel too sorry for me. I don’t live under a theocratic totalitarian government… yet. We’ll see what the next few American elections bring.
Hamas exploits its own peoples’ suffering to further its global Islamic ambitions.
How is it that innocent Jewish university students are hunted down, harassed and sometimes violently assaulted by THE VERY PEOPLE WHO SCREAM ABOUT discrimination and ‘Islamophobia’ ?
No one is saying everything would be fine. But most are in agreement that Bibi is largely responsible for the chaos. To begin, his cynical and reprehensible strategy was to procure funding (indirectly and clandestinely) for Hamas so as to enable it to oppose the more moderate Palestinian Authority, with the intention of subverting efforts to achieve a two-state solution. He has consistently flouted international law by promoting illegal settlements on the West Bank and tolerating the systematic terrorization of the Palestinians who reside there. He has pursued a policy in Gaza seemingly aimed at punishing innocent civilians by means of massive and indiscriminate bombings that are viewed as genocide by most of the civilized world and that has resulted in the ICC issuing an arrest warrant for him (as well as the Hamas chief) for war crimes. He clearly is trying to interfere with the US election by overtly embracing the Republicans and Trump. You may not like aspects of Palestinian society (repression of women, gays, etc.) but that does not warrant targeting a civilian population and slaughtering over 40,000 persons, the great majority of whom were innocent non-combatants. In the eyes of most of the world, thanks in large part to Bibi's actions, Israel is perceived as a pariah state. He should be chased from power and tried in the Hague.
It’s very disconcerting the reaction of the Palestinian people to the events on 10/7/2023. It was amazing how quickly Muslims worldwide reacted to those events.
They were almost orgasmic over the rape, torture and murder of people attending a peace festival. Many of these people weren’t even Jews.
It appeared the Muslim diaspora were expecting this barbaric attack on the Jewish people. They were thrilled; they were practicing the very tenets of their religion.
That is so. Still, I think about color-based racism and how old it is. Jew-hatred is more than four times that old. I wonder if, and when, it'll make an unexpected appearance here.
Do you know how much money Hamas got from all the Arab countries? The money was supposed to be spent on the people building up the country. Giving more money to Gazawill not help one person in Gaza except for Hamas
the food from the UN is a tiny fraction of what the Gazans need,
take a look into Israel funding Hamas and also the "stand down" orders to the Israeli soldiers orders at the time of the Oct 7 attack
also, is Israel justified in killing 40,000+ gazans and bombing their entire city? How much blame should be on Israel for funding Hamas? and for the "stand down" order to the soldiers?
This election is ONLY between two people: Trump vs. Harris. Abstaining from voting, or voting for an independent is basically dooming the Palestinian people to continued suffering and injustice.
Vote for Jill Stein~she is on the ballot in most states now~ voting for Kamala will be more of the same that the Biden administration is doing...committing Genocide of Palestinians.....
This link to 270towin shows how close the election is https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2024-presidential-election-forecast . There is no chance that a 3rd party candidate will win the election, but a very good chance that they will hurt Harris/ Walz margins, effectively making a vote for Stein or West a vote for Trump. I want the Netanyahu genocide in Gaza to stop as much as anybody, but that will never happen if Trump wins.
Harris can only be an effective force for good IF she gets elected. All the rest is palaver. In my view this, at this point in time what Harris must do is focus on the key Electoral College votes, in particular Georgia & Pennsylvania to convince those voters to vote for her. Yes, the "war" in Gaza, it's basically a genocidal slaughter, not a war, is a crucial humanitarian issue, but again, the needed change in federal policy toward Israel can only be done by a President willing to alter that policy to push Israel in the right direction. But first she has to get elected.
Michael, thank you for the information to give to support the people of Palestine. I gave as soon as I read your message.
As a Christian, I do not believe what the Israeli government is doing is biblically justified. Just like trying to justify slavery using the Bible was grossly wrong, trying to justify the slaughter of innocent people in Gaza is grossly wrong.
The number of dead comes from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is controlled by Hamas. We are led to think it's all women and babies. There is never any accounting of the Hamas fighters killed as part of the 40,000. I want to know that. I want a breakdown of the casualties. Of course it is terrible that so many non-combatant Gazan citizens have been killed. It is also terrible that the Gazans supported Hamas for twenty years. Knowing that Israel would retaliate, Hamas did absolutely nothing to protect the citizens of Gaza. Israel builds shelters against an attack. Homes have safe rooms. For Hamas, the casualties are part of the plan. Israel is not engaged in genocide. Just because the dead are Gazans, that does not constitute genocide.
I think you're giving her too much credit. She can see that the majority of Americans and the overwhelming majority of the world is screaming to end this genocide. She has stated her stance. It is NOT to make Palestinians whole. It is to make a deal that gets the hostages back and screws Palestinians. Just like every other deal the US has ever brokered for Israel. Kamala will represent the empire, just like all presidents before her. Just because she does it in a diverse body does not make it any better.
Check out the history (not from the Palestian propaganda machine) of the Palestinian leadership and some of the other Arab countries. They are the ones who have screwed the Palestinians, not Israel or the USA.
It's easy to use the term genocide. If the Israeli's wanted a genocide, they'd be lining up Palestinians and mowing them down like the Nazi's did during WWII and Pol Pot did in Cambodia and not letting any aid in. That's not happening. Yes. It's a war, but not a genocide. Without UK and US assistance, Israel would be overrun by its enemies and a real genocide of Israeli's would occur.
in fact Net and his pals have been doing just that...it is said that some/most Israelis call what Net and his pals are doing (with US $$$ Bombs) as Mowing the Lawn....Genocide is a legal term~ Palestinians are being killed everyday in Gaza and now the West Bank~ in fact what Israel is doing (with the $$$/weapons from US and UK ) Israel is committing Genocide~the ICC, ICJ, have said so.....you may wish this wasn't happening....however it is very real~
You talk like Hamas and its Iranian backed allies (also on the west bank) are not shooting back. News agencies (NOT from the Palestinian press) report of continued weapons and instigators continuing to infiltrate the West Bank, from Iran. Some, especially the Israeli "settlers" are not without blame. However when people are shooting at each other, it is armed conflict (war), not genocide.
A People under occupation have a right to defend themselves~this is not a war....it is a genocide.....Palestinians have been under occupation for at least 75 years now~~well you do see...right....that Net and his "Cabinet" are perpetrating Genocide~
and you do know, that Net knew that the Music Festival was a target a few months before it happened...one of Net's check points told Net and his pals that there was something brewing that they should pay attention to...they had intel......Net didn't do anything about that intel from his own people.........also you must know that on orders Israeli troops killed the Israelis that were in a house at the music festival...it is called the Hannibal Directive to kill their own people so they wouldn't be taken as hostages..........it has been labeled a Genocide by the ICJ and the ICC....also you do know that many people clearly labeled PRESS that have been covering this genocide in Gaza have been murdered by Israel, as have those trying to deliver Food aid,, medical aid, fresh water, fuel to cook with, and without their houses they now live in tents...and then are told again to move~look...Israel perpetrated an assassination of a Hamas leader on Iranian soil.......Net wants a wider war...
Almost no food or medicine entered Gaza in August, 2024. Starvation and preventable disease’s ate rampant. The rubblie is full of decaying bodies and surrounded by sewage water.
Last week they continued the genocide in the west bank. Creating rubble by running a steel rod beneath a tank, to take out the sewage system below the street. They destroyed 70% of the sewage system in the City of Jenin. They left rubble and killed a couple of Americans.
With all due respect, that's a very simple-minded comment. Voting for Trump is not the opposite of voting for Kamala. The world is not black and white.
My name is Ted Martin. I just finished writing a book about my first hand encounters with a morbidly corrupt federal judicial system. The book is titled: The Illusion of Justice and contains documented, incontrovertible proof of widespread systemic corruption in the District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, the United States Supreme Court, the Administrative Office of United States Courts, the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the U.S. Department of Justice.
The Supreme Court not only ignored two of the most egregious cases of judicial misconduct imaginable (my cases) but also an amicus brief by former Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner in which he blows the whistle on rampant corruption in the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.
Judge Posner’s amicus brief is posted on the Supreme Court’s website at www.supremecourt.gov and can be accessed by typing in the following case number: Martin v. Living Essentials (Case No. 17-8352)
It will be painfully obvious to anyone who reads my book (or Judges Posner’s amicus brief) that the Supreme Court denies certiorari without even bothering to read the petitions submitted by the citizens of the United States. This obscene betrayal of the public trust is a clear-cut violation of every Justice’s judicial oath and a crime under federal law that is commonly referred to as honest services fraud.
In short, my book proves that the leaders of both the Republican and Democratic parties have been conspiring together to pack the courts with corrupt corporate judges who will never side with the American people. This was abundantly clear when Senator Chuck Schumer and the other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee repeatedly refused to use irrefutable evidence of judicial misconduct by Amy Coney Barrett (a Republican nominee) at her Supreme Court confirmation hearing.
This bipartisan band of seditious conspirators also refused to address the underlying corruption in clear violation of their oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
The only difference between the two major political parties is the rhetoric. The special interest groups running this country don’t give a damn which bribe taking stooge you vote for or even if you vote at all. They have already successfully rigged every election by controlling “our” choices.
The leaders of both the Republican and Democratic parties have been caught red-handed conspiring to pack the courts with corrupt judges who will never side with you. If there was ever a reason to be a one issue voter, this is it. Besides, any politician caught lying about their fidelity to the Constitution and laws of the United States is obviously lying about everything—particularly their agenda.
Republicans push the corrupt corporate agenda. Democrats pretend to be opposed. Together, they sell their offices to the highest bidders. They foment war for the military industrial complex, promote racism for the prison industrial complex, refuse to restrict access to assault weapons for the gun manufactures, permit large quantities of toxic cancer causing chemicals to be dumped into our air, land, and water for the chemical manufactures, deny needed medical care to our country’s citizens for the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries, and turn a willful blind eye to the catastrophic effects of global warming for the fossil fuel industries. The list of their greed fueled crimes against humanity goes on and on.
Voting your current elected representatives out of office should be a no brainer. But, to make sure that they are not replaced with another batch of equally corrupt corporate stooges, we’re also going to have to take back both the Republican and Democratic parties and get the money out of politics.
While this may appear to be a daunting task, all we really need is a sound plan. After giving this matter some careful consideration, I have the following proposal: We agree to put aside all of our ideological differences and unite as Americans in support of the Constitution of the United States.
If you read my book, it really won’t be that difficult. You will know who the real enemy is and it certainly isn’t your fellow citizens. We just need to become one issue voters. Ignore their contrived wedge issues, bullshit talking points, and cringe worthy campaign ads. If they are not fighting tooth and nail to get the money out of politics—don’t legitimize them with your vote.
Seriously, if in doubt—throw them out. Besides, any government official who is not forcefully calling for the resignations of the corrupt leaders of their own political party is, by definition, violating their oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
Whether Republican or Democrat, a treasonous corporate criminal is a treasonous corporate criminal, they serve the same master and nothing is going to change until we get the money out of politics.
*You get the money out of politics by publicly funding elections, banning all campaign contributions, and, in exchange for their broadcasting/operating licenses, requiring news organizations to give every candidate for public office an equal amount of free advertising space.
In the future, I may write a book titled: The Illusion of Journalism. But for now, I’m just going to say that the media is not going to help anyone blow the whistle on their partners in crime. In the past four years, I couldn’t find a single news organization that hadn’t sold us out.
All an honest journalist would have to do is read Judge Posner’s amicus brief to know that the courts are irretrievably corrupt. Reading my book will conclusively show that the courts are corrupt by design.
Only a co-conspirator willfully ignores public corruption. I will vote for anyone who will forcefully fight to get the money of politics. They can start by pointing out the obvious corruption of our current public officials.
Yes and how about telling Harris she does not get your vote until she promises to stop funding genocide.
If you think Trump would be better, withhold your vote. Otherwise, hold your nose and vote for her. The world is not perfect.
I’ve held my nose election after election. I’m done. I’m voting for Stein.
A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump. Did you also do this when Stein tilted Hillary's vote to Trump?
Depends where you live. In California this is a protest vote.
OK. I get it. Sort of. Though until the system allows for a viable third party, a vote for Stein like in 2016 or a vote for Nader like in 2000 can have serious unintended consequences. I don't think we can take anything for granted this time around.
You seem not to think we have no serious consequences now. Well, the fact we are voting against a gangster and with a party supporting a murderous ethnic cleansing says otherwise. No real democracy is doing this.
Hillary lost in 2016 because she didn't go into the states that would have given her the electoral vote....she won the popular vote....but against the wishes of her campaign she refused to go into those states that might have given her the electoral vote........Hillary lost by her own sorry self........"Trump won the presidency by clinching 304 electoral votes, well over the minimum 270 needed. Clinton won 227 electoral votes"....it is the Electoral College that puts someone in the WH......https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-officially-wins-popular-vote-29-million/story?id=44354341
not in a blue state
not true if your state is blue or goes for Harris
Voting Stein.
You can vote for Jill Stein....
no need to hold my nose~
Voting for Jill Stein~
The Russian asset Jill Stein?
silly~~~~~~~
Yeah, definitely not perfect. Goring was waaayyy better than Goebbels. Dying from a shot in the head is less painful than being gut-shot. Choices!
This is what people don't understand. If there are even any Palestinians left alive in all of "Israel" when the next president is inaugurated, it will be a miracle.
There are 2 million 'Palestinians' in Gaza. There are another 2 million or so Israeli Arabs. They are 20% of the Israeli population. and no one is harming them except maybe Hamas or Hizbullah. Being Arab gives you no immunity to Islamist weapons. And back to Gaza; do you know what percentage 40,000 out of 2 million is. TWO. The ignorance out of which some people yap about this is nothing short of abysmal!
So comforted by your perspective. Of course actually the 40,000 number you cite are the direct deaths caused by bombs. The number of deaths due to the utter destruction of everything in Gaza is believed to be over 160,000. Shucks that's 8%. A pittance. (That would be like 30 million Americans, or ten thousand 911 attacks. We went to war for 20 years over just one 911 attack. Since you like precise numbers and percentages so much, I guess Palestinians will have to make war against Israelis and their supporters for two hundred thousand years.)
Thank you for reflecting reality~
May there be Peace~
Don't put it past them. The spirit of Amalek has them in a death-grip.
sure that means we got it wrong and we shouldn't care... Man if these were Israelis the media would be overwhelmed with their important stories !!!! But they are ONLY Palestinians and yes as you say, we dont need to care at all. (in real terms it is estimated now that when the journalist embargo is lifted it will be clear how many more have died due to disease, malnutrition, disappeared and in prisons : right now about 200,000.
Not true
The trust of both of you in the 'statistics' Hamas, an outfit which uses its own people, ESPECIALLY children, as shields for its cowardly murderers, is so very touching! And too many UNRWA officials are also Hamas operatives! Or are they statistics that you yourselves want to believe? I very much doubt you'd have given the same credence to the 'rumors' of exterminations coming from Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc., had you been alive then!
Hold your Heart, not your nose. That was shot off with the legs of the children. Vegetables are outlawed, raw sewage runs everywhere.
No To Genocide.
Nope - I live in a state that will go for Harris - so my vote to a third party is a clear protest vote without changing a Trump reelection. Many of us in deep blue states can do this. It has to be stated !!! Nothing else is working.. UNCOMMITTED or Jill Stein
why are you so sure about that? re your state?.....your vote for Jill Stein could be the tie breaker for Democracy....currently we do not have a Democracy and it will continue under Kamala as an oligarchy/fascist state~....we have a US congress that is bought and paid for by AIPAC...huge industries $$$$ to those in office~thanks to the Supreme Court that upheld big business = Citizens United~pumping money into the campaigns of those who do what they are told to do~
You can always self-deport.
so can you Julia~
Why would I do that Marge? I’ll stay right here and fight for Jews to be safe from Islamists.
we HAVE TO stand up for OUR DEMOCRACY~~~~~
Vote for Jill Stein!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't trust Kamala re promises~
May there be Peace~
I’m so sorry…the USA is NOT an Islamic nation.
This is the only way. And, in fact, enough people to tank her campaign have already told her this, and her stance hasn't changed. (Nor has the party's)
Yeah, your agenda is to tank her campaign
Why don't you try to tank Donald Trump's campaign?
He is the one who told Netanyahu not to make peace until after the election.
Everyone in Gaza will be dead by the end of her campaign. Hers and Biden's administration could've stopped this genocide at any second by refusing to send bombs and money. I don't listen to what they say. I watch what they do.
She also has no power to do anything to stop any of it right now.
If Biden can't stop Netanyahu, right now, what makes you think that she can?
You just want to punish her because the Palestinian protestors were not allowed to speak at the convention.
A decision that may not have been hers to make.
Biden DOES have the power to stop Netanyahu. He just doesn't do it. Literally all he has to do is stop sending weapons and money!
Exactly!!!!!!!
The thing is Biden could turn off the $$$$$$$ and the weapons.....but he seems fine with Genocide...Biden received 5 million dollars plus from "Israel"/ AIPAC Kamala could do the same thing...turn off the $$$$$ and the weapons" but she has said she won't stop the Genocide..Kamala and Walz are big supporters of Israel....they will continue with sending $$$$$ and weapons to Israel...because their big corporate donors want them to.....we are not a democracy....."The Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United that corporations and special interests have a "free speech" right to pump millions of dollars into "our" "elections" often in complete secrecy". AIPAC "owns" most of the US Congress....so that Reps and Senators vote the way AIPAC wants them to........Now why do you think that, having Invited Palestinians to the DNC...then blocked them from entering the DNC..."The Uncommitted movement represents the at least 700,000 individuals who cast protest votes against Joe Biden during the presidential primary to demand a ceasefire in Gaza. They hoped that at the DNC, just one of the many Palestinian speakers they proposed would be allowed to give a speech on the main stage. Not a single Palestinian American was given a speaking slot on the convention stage all week. Instead, Georgia State Representative Ruwa Romman gave a speech outside the convention center. “We all wanted to come to a place of unity and a place of ‘yes’,” says Rep. Romman. “I don't really know where to go from here, to be quite honest.”."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GCipUTUxRM
yes they're sell outs to AIPAC like most Republican congress people and many middle road Dems who are pro-israel ; and to the crazy Nationalist Christian cults.
If what you say is true, about the Palestinians all being dead by the end of her campaign, then there is nothing anyone can do to save them short of the Israeli's removing Netanyahu from power.
I am watching what you do.
You are trying to sabotage her campaign even though she is the ONLY one in the picture who has not done anything to harm anyone with the possible exception of snubbing Netanyahu when he came to America to meet with Donald Trump.
one person cannot sabotage a campaign....
why do you want Kamala in the White House...which of her policies appeal to you?
Turman, Regan and Bush seernior all picked up the phone and told Bibi (and his predecessor) "NO" and he didn't ! Biden could have done that any day but he's a coward living in the 1950s - Harris wants the AIPAC vote, clearly.
I agree~
"With respect to the war in Gaza. President Biden and I are working around the
clock. Because now is the time to get a hostage deal and ceasefire done.
Let me be clear: I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and I will
always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself. Because the people of Israel
must never again face the horror that the terrorist organization Hamas caused on
October 7th. Including unspeakable sexual violence and the massacre of young
people at a music festival.
At the same time, what has happened in Gaza over the past 10 months is
devastating. So many innocent lives lost. Desperate, hungry people fleeing for
safety, over and over again. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking.
President Biden and I are working to end this war such that Israel is secure, the
hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can
realize their right to dignity. Security. Freedom. And self-determination."
1)Standing up for Genocide goes against International laws~
2) Israel knew from their own troops, 2 months before the music festival happened, that something planned re Hamas....Israel leaders chose to not do anything about info they had....the day of the festival.... as the Hamas assault began there were people of the Jewish faith taking refuge in a house nearby....Israel used their Hannibal Directive (which means Israel killed its own citizens)....to prevent them from becoming hostages.....
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Hannibal_Directive
"The name of a controversial procedure used by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces."
From Kamala Harris' acceptance speech
It seems some people didn't listen to the whole speech or only heard the part affirming Israel's right to defend itself.
Maybe the debate next Tuesday will bring things into focus, but I'm not holding my breath.
Altercation: AIPAC Goes Full Trump
It endorses most of the GOP representatives who voted to overturn the Electoral College results—but not pro-Israel hawk Liz Cheney.
by Eric Alterman
April 29, 2022
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Then–Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at the 2016 AIPAC Policy Conference at the Verizon Center, March 21, 2016, in Washington.
AIPAC has been in the news lately, and not in a good way. After decades of pretending that it would not know a political contribution if it bumped into one and broke its nose, it ended the charade and announced in December 2021 that it would be creating a super PAC to donate directly to congressional candidates. Having raised nearly $16 million in its first quarter of existence, it has now endorsed 109 of the 147 Republican congressmen who supported Donald Trump’s campaign to try to overturn the Electoral College’s results on January 6th, along with a few Democrats. “Our goal is to make America’s friendship with Israel so robust, so certain, so broadly based, and so dependable that even the deep divisions of American politics can never imperil that relationship and the ability of the Jewish state to defend itself,” it explains.
In a Boston Globe op-ed by Alan Solomont and Nancy Buck (both associated with J Street), however, we learn that “AIPAC’s new endorsees include such allies of Donald Trump as Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, who refuses to cooperate with the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol; Representative Pete Sessions of Texas, who met with ‘Stop the Steal’ leaders just days before the insurrection; and Representative Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, who has echoed white nationalist conspiracies about ‘replacement theory’ and compared Democratic leaders to the Nazis.”
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And guess which Republican AIPAC apparently forgot to include? That’s right. The rather crazily “pro-Israel” Liz Cheney is being blackballed. In the past, Cheney has taken the AIPAC line down the line. Even before she was in Congress, she represented the Republican Party at an AIPAC Policy Conference panel and (falsely) complained of Obama: “There is no president who has done more to delegitimize and destabilize the State of Israel in recent history than President Obama.” She also attacked Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, in a manner consistent with AIPAC’s attacks on them. But now, apparently because she’s become persona non grata with the people out to destroy American democracy, she’s getting stiffed.
Right. And Biden has received more money from them over the years than any other candidate. They own our government.
How much $ over how many years?
Source please
Google is free. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
$4,223,393.00 over a period of 34 years.
That isn't that much money from a donor.
So you don't actually know
ridiculous comment.. I do not live in a country under Hamas.. I voted for Biden as our democratic leader who should listen to the people. Moreover my country is complicit in this genocide and has the leverage to halt it in 10 minutes if they chose to!!
Are Palestinians still celebrating the mass murder of Americans on 9/11/2001; and the near destruction of the United States government?
She isn't the one doing the funding.
You just wanna help Trump
Haaretz -
The pro-Israel, Evangelical Money Helping Bankroll Trump's Latest Presidential Run
Evangelical Texas oil executive Tim Dunn is one of the most conspicuous recent donors to Donald Trump's election campaign. He is joined by a few familiar names of pro-Israel Jewish businessmen undeterred by Trump's isolationist chokehold on the GOP
Interesting info~Thank you~
The Pro-Israel Donor With a $100 Million Plan to Elect Trump
Miriam Adelson long operated in the shadow of her powerful husband, Sheldon Adelson. Now, after his death, she is playing in politics as a solo practitioner for the first time.
send her a text.
Now you're being the Michael Moore that I have always loved (and will always love). Yes! My wife and will do that. We're so fortunate to be able to do that. Most people can't, but geez, even if every working person could give $5 as a gesture of international working class solidarity that would be so great.
Your title says it perfectly. “Our” money to Israel must stop now! Bibi is playing all of us, especially Biden and many legislators!
Thank you again, for saying what our weekly protests have been saying since October 7. 2023, but your words will reach far & wide!
may it be so! thank you.
Thank you for this info.: the P.C.R.F. I shall be donating!!
Kamala H. has declared 2x's (first @ the Convention and afterwards in her infamous and only "interview" with Stahl (?) that she stands with Zionist Israel (as well as repeating the debunked Israeli propaganda about the "RAPE" victims on "Oct. 7".) Kamala is "more of the same". She is a fraud and will be a patsy if elected. Americans have projected their wishful thinking on this woman. We will be betrayed by her if she wins the Presidency. ....¡May I be proven wrong! Thank you. Keep advocating for what is right! 🙏🏽 (/Caroline McCabe; 80 yrs.)
She is in a difficult position. Still VP to a deluded old man and his policy. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. We KNOW the danger of her opponent.
Kamala was anointed the run....she didn't run against anyone...to be possibly elected to President of the US....anointed by big business, the billionaires, and AIPAC.....There is another person running for President.....Jill Stein....check her out if you haven't yet....voting for evil because the other person is evil...is really not good for the country...you know Kamala is going to follow orders from handlers and do what they tell her to do.........
Then get out. Democrats want Kamala Harris.
Of course she will stand with "Zionist" Israel. Do you expect her to stand with Hamas and Iran, avowed enemies of the United States? I doubt that Harris is a fraud. How, pray tell will we be betrayed by her. No evidence of it.
The US government needs to do a better job vetting potential immigrants. Especially from the ME. Look at these comments !
Caroline I agree with you!
You are no better than the conniving, lying, underhanded GOP.
Michael,
The Gaza situation is a no win situation for the U.S.. Biden has been pushing back on Netanyahu but it is up to the Israeli people to kick out Netanyahu. Neither Biden nor the U.S.can do that. Weare on the cusp of a critical election and if Biden dtops any support, the Dems will lose support from many Jewish voters which can cost the elect. Then we would wind up with Trump which would be disastrous. So please do not be so naive to think that you have all the answers . This is a complex situation and Biden is doing all he can to try to get a cease fire. Even Egypt and Quitar are trying.
All you are doing with your rhetoric is losing votes for the Dems. Please stop it.
Eileen, I agree with you 100%..
If Biden was really pushing back...this would have been over on Oct 8th~ But Biden does not push back to stop the Genocide.....Biden says "Please stop" but Israel continues the slaughter of Palestinians.....if Biden stopped sending our tax dollars and weapons of mass killing and destruction of infrastructure...the Genocide would stop~ people will vote for who they want in office...you will vote for Kamala....I will vote for Jill Stein....although we are not a real democracy...because it is the electoral college that puts a person in the White House...I would rather vote for a candidate that would put the interests of the people of they United States rather than aiding and abetting the Genocide of Palestinians..ps Biden has received over 5 million dollars from Israel and their PACS over the years...you can check that out if you wish~ May there be Peace
Wow Marjorie, has it ever crossed your mind that Hamas bears any responsibility for the harm that is coming to its civilians? You do realize that Hamas draws fire toward civilians by launching rockets at Israeli civilians knowing that it was draw return fire and kill civilians? Do you or any of your friends on this page see that you should be holding Hamas accountable as well? Do you ever consider that instead of letting Palestinian women and children use the tunnels they spent all their US aid on to build for their protection, Hamas purposely leaves the women and children out in the open to get killed while they alone protect themselves in the tunnels? Do you every think about why that is? There will never be peace if you don't start calling out the vicious killers on the other side of this. Also try to think the all of it through--if you were to get Israel disarmed, and the Palestinians take it over, the Hamas death cultists will begin killing their own, just as what happens in Iran, Syria and every other country run by Islamic fundamentalists. It's time for thinking people to think. Thank you.
Well you do know that Israel created Hamas...right?...you might find this article interesting~https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ it is important to have FACTS~ and check this out~~~~https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl/index.html .....there are more articles....that will give you more of an understanding of what is going on ...just google Israel/ Gaza or go to your library...Facts matter~
Israel created Hamas ?!! Stop dropping acid Marge. It’s a religious war they wanted. And they got it.
I’m with you Suzie. I’ll never forget what Islamic terrorists did to this great country on 9/11/2001. Hamas practices the same ideology as Al-Qaeda.
I’m sorry, Jews don’t do this.
Do you remember what the US did to the Middle East~
"The United States did go to war with Iraq soon enough. The Bush administration was eager to mobilize the anguish of the 9/11 attack to support the war. Despite the intelligence community’s unequivocal conclusion that Iraq had nothing to do with either 9/11 or al-Qaida, the administration let Americans believe the contrary. Consequently, the United States went to war in Iraq on a false pretense that it was somehow avenging those killed by al-Qaida. A Washington Post poll conducted two years after 9/11 dramatically illustrated the story: 69% of Americans at the time believed Saddam Hussein was “personally” involved in the 9/11 attack. Even more staggering, 82% believed Saddam provided assistance to Osama bin Laden. Both were utterly false." https://www.brookings.edu/articles/9-11-and-iraq-the-making-of-a-tragedy/
I too agree 100%. The President of the United States leads a democracy, not an autocracy and there is only so much any person in the Oval Office can do while weathering all the adverse political gales. I would have had Biden push back much more severely against Netanyahu, but then, who knows what the consequences would be? Not me, at least.
That said, I do think it's time for the United States to start obeying its own laws, particular the laws we have in place for not sending weapons to nations that commit war crimes. The USA will only be damaged by holding onto an alliance that forces us to violate our own laws.
right on...the US should start obeying its own laws AND international laws
Are you suggesting that we stop being allies with Israel?
I would not suggest ending our tactical relationship with Israel (whatever it is). I simply haven't the expertise to offer suggestions of that scale. But if we are to have an alliance with Israel, it must be a responsible one and one that supports common values--notably internationally agreed rules of governing. Any alliance we have must build a better more secure world. It is no good for the USA to become a moral contortion artist and mindless cheerleader in a relationship with any other nation on Earth. It's up to the US to establish clear boundaries in any tactical relationship--boundaries that support human rights for all people and cooperative peace for all nations.
sounds good to me....by the way~~~Net takes our money, weapons, and does nothing but corrupt the US Congress via AIPAC and other PACs for Israel..and by the way the US is complicit in the genocide of Palestinians..here is some info you might find interesting....https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/30/isolated-abroad-torn-apart-at-home-israel-must-face-the-future-it-dreads-a-palestinian-state
The US is not an ally to Israel....we are funding Israel and providing weapons to Israel to enable Israel to ethnically "cleanse" Palestinians...ie Israel is committing genocide of Palestinians....the ICC and the ICJ have judged that Israel IS committing Genocide~ the US is complicit in Genocide... we are not ""allies"" the US is co-opted by Israel...via AIPAC and Billionaires that "buy" the members of the US Congress and the US Presidency .....Biden has received more that five million dollars from Israel/ PACs...we do not have a democracy......additionally...now ...we see senior officers in the IDF resigning
and hundreds of thousands of Israelis in the streets of Israel to get rid of Net. the Palestinians have been under occupation for more than 75 years...by Israel...Palestinians have a right to self defense...May there be Peace~
we do not have democracy in the US....we have the oligarchy calling all the shots~ we have a pretend democracy~ in name only.....
actually ...we are not really a democracy......the voters get to cast their vote at the ballot box...hopefully...there is a lot out there happening to rig the vote....that is happening....it is not the votes of regular folks that puts someone in the White House....it is the Electoral College that puts a person in the WH.....the 2016 race (Hill vs Don)...Hillary decided not to campaign in states that had a "large population of Palestinians and Muslims " against the wishes of her managers.....HIllary won the popular vote by 120,000 votes.....but she lost the Electoral vote...because Trump did go into those states that Hillary did not go into~Right now....AIPAC gives funds to US Congress People....to buy their votes....and also Big Money Billionaires and huge Companies have more say in the outcome of Votes on US congress floor than votes of ordinary people ..because Big Money influences how Congress votes~~~~~~~it's more like an Oligarchy than a Democracy....Oligarchy= "a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution:" May there be Peace~
Regan did in 1982. He made the call and said no more bombs. The conflict ended in less than a week.
I’ve been a liberal Democrat since I was 5 years old. On 9/11/2001 I refused to condemn an entire religion over the actions of what I believed then was a small minority of religious zealots.
I’m not so sure anymore. They defend HAMAS?!! They would gamble with a trump presidency?
How about we send @POTUS about 20,000 messages on the platform formally known as Twitter and ask for our $356 back. We will expect it as a tax refund immediately.
Send him an email at the Whitehouse.
I want mine back too. The problem was laid out by Thomas Friedman (not my favorite journalist) in yesterday’s NYT, wherein he expose Bibi’s plan to sabotage our election with the goal of getting his buddy Trump back in. Then, like Trump, he will be able to hang on to power forever. He’s a Middle Eastern Machiavelli who deals only in bad faith. He hasn’t the slightest intention of permitting a cease-fire except on the most egregious conditions and certainly not until our election takes place. He’ll easily weather out a few more days or even weeks of the current protests. Should Harris prevail, I believe his days will be numbered because she sees right through him and won’t let him continue to get away with the free ride he’s had with Biden. But his plan, perceptively analyzed by Friedman, has the potential for wreaking havoc in the election. I pray that it will fail and that Harris will ultimately hold him fully accountable for his nefarious policies.
Do you (and apparently most people on this page) actually have so much confidence in an Islamic fundamentalist terror death cult like Hamas that you believe that some other person were president of Israel, everything would be fine? Can everyone please wake up and stop looking at this problem from one side??? I will give you the point that Netanyahu may not be the right person for the job on the Israel side, but I am not sure that a different person changes this equation AT ALL.... we must wake up and look at who is on the other side, and it is not pretty. They don't care for the women and children you all seem so concerned about. They steal all the aid for themselves and use it to build a terror tunnel network larger than the London Tube, and then use it for their own protection while purposely leaving their women and children out in harms way. Not mention they throw gays off of buildings and I could go on. If you are hoping for peace, it's very unrealistic to think if only Bibi were replaced we get to Koombaya. Michael has made this way to simple of a calculus.
Remember Yitzhak Rabin?
(/rəˈbiːn/;[1] Hebrew: יִצְחָק רַבִּין, IPA: [jitsˈχak ʁaˈbin] ⓘ; 1 March 1922 – 4 November 1995) was an Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth prime minister of Israel, serving two terms in office, 1974–1977, and from 1992 until his assassination in 1995.
Rabin was born in Jerusalem to Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe and was raised in a Labor Zionist household. He learned agriculture in school and excelled as a student. He led a 27-year career as a soldier and ultimately attained the rank of Rav Aluf, the most senior rank in the Israeli Defense Force (often translated as lieutenant general). As a teenager he joined the Palmach, the commando force of the Yishuv. He eventually rose through its ranks to become its chief of operations during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. He joined the newly formed Israel Defense Forces in late 1948 and continued to rise as a promising officer. He helped shape the training doctrine of the IDF in the early 1950s, and led the IDF's Operations Directorate from 1959 to 1963. He was appointed chief of the general staff in 1964 and oversaw Israel's victory in the 1967 Six-Day War.
Rabin served as Israel's ambassador to the United States from 1968 to 1973, during a period of deepening U.S.–Israel ties. He was appointed Prime Minister of Israel in 1974 after the resignation of Golda Meir. In his first term, Rabin signed the Sinai Interim Agreement and ordered the Entebbe raid. He resigned in 1977 in the wake of a financial scandal. Rabin was Israel's minister of defense for much of the 1980s, including during the outbreak of the First Intifada.
In 1992, Rabin was re-elected as prime minister on a platform embracing the Israeli–Palestinian peace process. He signed several historic agreements with the Palestinian leadership as part of the Oslo Accords. In 1994, Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize together with long-time political rival Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Rabin also signed a peace treaty with Jordan in 1994. In November 1995, he was assassinated by Yigal Amir, an extremist who opposed the terms of the Oslo Accords. Amir was convicted of Rabin's murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. Rabin was the first native-born prime minister of Israel, the only prime minister to be assassinated, and the second to die in office after Levi Eshkol. Rabin has become a symbol of the Israeli–Palestinian peace process.
Thank you~
The problem with your rational is, that Palestinians have been under occupation for 75 years......Many people around world SEE that Palestinians in Gaza live in open air prison.... Palestinians now live in the zone of death, destruction, of everything ~housing gone, medical care gone, schools/universities gone, Holy Sites gone, food~Palestinians are being tortured by being told they have to move to a different place to be safe...and the Israel bombs in the "safe place"..most recently...a 30 foot deep hole in the ground where families were living in tents...in place that Israel said would be safe...Israel has done this multiple times over this year..Israel with total support of the US Govt is committing Genocide/Ethnic Cleansing which are against International law.....Sad that you can't see their suffering...there right to live...raise their children...be able to feed their children and themselves....Silly Silly you...I feel sorry for you~
Don’t feel too sorry for me. I don’t live under a theocratic totalitarian government… yet. We’ll see what the next few American elections bring.
Hamas exploits its own peoples’ suffering to further its global Islamic ambitions.
How is it that innocent Jewish university students are hunted down, harassed and sometimes violently assaulted by THE VERY PEOPLE WHO SCREAM ABOUT discrimination and ‘Islamophobia’ ?
How do you defend that? Don’t bother trying.
No one is saying everything would be fine. But most are in agreement that Bibi is largely responsible for the chaos. To begin, his cynical and reprehensible strategy was to procure funding (indirectly and clandestinely) for Hamas so as to enable it to oppose the more moderate Palestinian Authority, with the intention of subverting efforts to achieve a two-state solution. He has consistently flouted international law by promoting illegal settlements on the West Bank and tolerating the systematic terrorization of the Palestinians who reside there. He has pursued a policy in Gaza seemingly aimed at punishing innocent civilians by means of massive and indiscriminate bombings that are viewed as genocide by most of the civilized world and that has resulted in the ICC issuing an arrest warrant for him (as well as the Hamas chief) for war crimes. He clearly is trying to interfere with the US election by overtly embracing the Republicans and Trump. You may not like aspects of Palestinian society (repression of women, gays, etc.) but that does not warrant targeting a civilian population and slaughtering over 40,000 persons, the great majority of whom were innocent non-combatants. In the eyes of most of the world, thanks in large part to Bibi's actions, Israel is perceived as a pariah state. He should be chased from power and tried in the Hague.
It’s very disconcerting the reaction of the Palestinian people to the events on 10/7/2023. It was amazing how quickly Muslims worldwide reacted to those events.
They were almost orgasmic over the rape, torture and murder of people attending a peace festival. Many of these people weren’t even Jews.
It appeared the Muslim diaspora were expecting this barbaric attack on the Jewish people. They were thrilled; they were practicing the very tenets of their religion.
HAMAS is wholly responsible for every single Israeli and Palestinian death since 10/7/2023.
very silly~
That is so. Still, I think about color-based racism and how old it is. Jew-hatred is more than four times that old. I wonder if, and when, it'll make an unexpected appearance here.
There is literature that is older than the bible that proves otherwise.
Color based racism and hatred is as old as it gets.
It predates all religions, even Judaism.
Can you point me to some of this literature? I'm interested.
Do you know how much money Hamas got from all the Arab countries? The money was supposed to be spent on the people building up the country. Giving more money to Gazawill not help one person in Gaza except for Hamas
This is time-worn propaganda. Stop spreading it. There are United Nations and other aid agencies providing medical care and food to Gazans.
Right on!!!
the food from the UN is a tiny fraction of what the Gazans need,
take a look into Israel funding Hamas and also the "stand down" orders to the Israeli soldiers orders at the time of the Oct 7 attack
also, is Israel justified in killing 40,000+ gazans and bombing their entire city? How much blame should be on Israel for funding Hamas? and for the "stand down" order to the soldiers?
NONE
EVERYTHING IS JOE BIDEN'S
AND KAMALA HARRIS' FAULT
Sending weapons will never bring peace.
Send the Pope. He has only one job.
Let him walk the walk.
Mike, I love you! ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️
This election is ONLY between two people: Trump vs. Harris. Abstaining from voting, or voting for an independent is basically dooming the Palestinian people to continued suffering and injustice.
Vote for Jill Stein~she is on the ballot in most states now~ voting for Kamala will be more of the same that the Biden administration is doing...committing Genocide of Palestinians.....
This link to 270towin shows how close the election is https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2024-presidential-election-forecast . There is no chance that a 3rd party candidate will win the election, but a very good chance that they will hurt Harris/ Walz margins, effectively making a vote for Stein or West a vote for Trump. I want the Netanyahu genocide in Gaza to stop as much as anybody, but that will never happen if Trump wins.
Harris can only be an effective force for good IF she gets elected. All the rest is palaver. In my view this, at this point in time what Harris must do is focus on the key Electoral College votes, in particular Georgia & Pennsylvania to convince those voters to vote for her. Yes, the "war" in Gaza, it's basically a genocidal slaughter, not a war, is a crucial humanitarian issue, but again, the needed change in federal policy toward Israel can only be done by a President willing to alter that policy to push Israel in the right direction. But first she has to get elected.
what makes you think she is not going to follow what the oligarchs want her to do?
Michael, I followed your lead. I also gave $356. Great idea!!
Michael, thank you for the information to give to support the people of Palestine. I gave as soon as I read your message.
As a Christian, I do not believe what the Israeli government is doing is biblically justified. Just like trying to justify slavery using the Bible was grossly wrong, trying to justify the slaughter of innocent people in Gaza is grossly wrong.
As an ATHEIST, I also think it is wrong.
The number of dead comes from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is controlled by Hamas. We are led to think it's all women and babies. There is never any accounting of the Hamas fighters killed as part of the 40,000. I want to know that. I want a breakdown of the casualties. Of course it is terrible that so many non-combatant Gazan citizens have been killed. It is also terrible that the Gazans supported Hamas for twenty years. Knowing that Israel would retaliate, Hamas did absolutely nothing to protect the citizens of Gaza. Israel builds shelters against an attack. Homes have safe rooms. For Hamas, the casualties are part of the plan. Israel is not engaged in genocide. Just because the dead are Gazans, that does not constitute genocide.
Reality check....Israel is using US $$$$$$$$ and Weapons to commit genocide of Palestinians...read more...get more info....on what is really going on~
I think you're giving her too much credit. She can see that the majority of Americans and the overwhelming majority of the world is screaming to end this genocide. She has stated her stance. It is NOT to make Palestinians whole. It is to make a deal that gets the hostages back and screws Palestinians. Just like every other deal the US has ever brokered for Israel. Kamala will represent the empire, just like all presidents before her. Just because she does it in a diverse body does not make it any better.
Check out the history (not from the Palestian propaganda machine) of the Palestinian leadership and some of the other Arab countries. They are the ones who have screwed the Palestinians, not Israel or the USA.
mmmmmh? who is sending $$$$$$$$ and Weapons to Israel.....hint...the USA...
who is committing the Genocide of Palestinians...hint the US, UK, Israel........
It's easy to use the term genocide. If the Israeli's wanted a genocide, they'd be lining up Palestinians and mowing them down like the Nazi's did during WWII and Pol Pot did in Cambodia and not letting any aid in. That's not happening. Yes. It's a war, but not a genocide. Without UK and US assistance, Israel would be overrun by its enemies and a real genocide of Israeli's would occur.
in fact Net and his pals have been doing just that...it is said that some/most Israelis call what Net and his pals are doing (with US $$$ Bombs) as Mowing the Lawn....Genocide is a legal term~ Palestinians are being killed everyday in Gaza and now the West Bank~ in fact what Israel is doing (with the $$$/weapons from US and UK ) Israel is committing Genocide~the ICC, ICJ, have said so.....you may wish this wasn't happening....however it is very real~
You talk like Hamas and its Iranian backed allies (also on the west bank) are not shooting back. News agencies (NOT from the Palestinian press) report of continued weapons and instigators continuing to infiltrate the West Bank, from Iran. Some, especially the Israeli "settlers" are not without blame. However when people are shooting at each other, it is armed conflict (war), not genocide.
A People under occupation have a right to defend themselves~this is not a war....it is a genocide.....Palestinians have been under occupation for at least 75 years now~~well you do see...right....that Net and his "Cabinet" are perpetrating Genocide~
and you do know, that Net knew that the Music Festival was a target a few months before it happened...one of Net's check points told Net and his pals that there was something brewing that they should pay attention to...they had intel......Net didn't do anything about that intel from his own people.........also you must know that on orders Israeli troops killed the Israelis that were in a house at the music festival...it is called the Hannibal Directive to kill their own people so they wouldn't be taken as hostages..........it has been labeled a Genocide by the ICJ and the ICC....also you do know that many people clearly labeled PRESS that have been covering this genocide in Gaza have been murdered by Israel, as have those trying to deliver Food aid,, medical aid, fresh water, fuel to cook with, and without their houses they now live in tents...and then are told again to move~look...Israel perpetrated an assassination of a Hamas leader on Iranian soil.......Net wants a wider war...
A "war" with one army killing civilians because they are not the right ethnicity?
Almost no food or medicine entered Gaza in August, 2024. Starvation and preventable disease’s ate rampant. The rubblie is full of decaying bodies and surrounded by sewage water.
Last week they continued the genocide in the west bank. Creating rubble by running a steel rod beneath a tank, to take out the sewage system below the street. They destroyed 70% of the sewage system in the City of Jenin. They left rubble and killed a couple of Americans.
sadly so~ and the US keeps up it's support of Israel~
Vote for Trump then
With all due respect, that's a very simple-minded comment. Voting for Trump is not the opposite of voting for Kamala. The world is not black and white.
You are right.
The world is not black and white
My name is Ted Martin. I just finished writing a book about my first hand encounters with a morbidly corrupt federal judicial system. The book is titled: The Illusion of Justice and contains documented, incontrovertible proof of widespread systemic corruption in the District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, the United States Supreme Court, the Administrative Office of United States Courts, the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the U.S. Department of Justice.
The Supreme Court not only ignored two of the most egregious cases of judicial misconduct imaginable (my cases) but also an amicus brief by former Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner in which he blows the whistle on rampant corruption in the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.
Judge Posner’s amicus brief is posted on the Supreme Court’s website at www.supremecourt.gov and can be accessed by typing in the following case number: Martin v. Living Essentials (Case No. 17-8352)
It will be painfully obvious to anyone who reads my book (or Judges Posner’s amicus brief) that the Supreme Court denies certiorari without even bothering to read the petitions submitted by the citizens of the United States. This obscene betrayal of the public trust is a clear-cut violation of every Justice’s judicial oath and a crime under federal law that is commonly referred to as honest services fraud.
In short, my book proves that the leaders of both the Republican and Democratic parties have been conspiring together to pack the courts with corrupt corporate judges who will never side with the American people. This was abundantly clear when Senator Chuck Schumer and the other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee repeatedly refused to use irrefutable evidence of judicial misconduct by Amy Coney Barrett (a Republican nominee) at her Supreme Court confirmation hearing.
This bipartisan band of seditious conspirators also refused to address the underlying corruption in clear violation of their oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
The only difference between the two major political parties is the rhetoric. The special interest groups running this country don’t give a damn which bribe taking stooge you vote for or even if you vote at all. They have already successfully rigged every election by controlling “our” choices.
The leaders of both the Republican and Democratic parties have been caught red-handed conspiring to pack the courts with corrupt judges who will never side with you. If there was ever a reason to be a one issue voter, this is it. Besides, any politician caught lying about their fidelity to the Constitution and laws of the United States is obviously lying about everything—particularly their agenda.
Republicans push the corrupt corporate agenda. Democrats pretend to be opposed. Together, they sell their offices to the highest bidders. They foment war for the military industrial complex, promote racism for the prison industrial complex, refuse to restrict access to assault weapons for the gun manufactures, permit large quantities of toxic cancer causing chemicals to be dumped into our air, land, and water for the chemical manufactures, deny needed medical care to our country’s citizens for the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries, and turn a willful blind eye to the catastrophic effects of global warming for the fossil fuel industries. The list of their greed fueled crimes against humanity goes on and on.
Voting your current elected representatives out of office should be a no brainer. But, to make sure that they are not replaced with another batch of equally corrupt corporate stooges, we’re also going to have to take back both the Republican and Democratic parties and get the money out of politics.
While this may appear to be a daunting task, all we really need is a sound plan. After giving this matter some careful consideration, I have the following proposal: We agree to put aside all of our ideological differences and unite as Americans in support of the Constitution of the United States.
If you read my book, it really won’t be that difficult. You will know who the real enemy is and it certainly isn’t your fellow citizens. We just need to become one issue voters. Ignore their contrived wedge issues, bullshit talking points, and cringe worthy campaign ads. If they are not fighting tooth and nail to get the money out of politics—don’t legitimize them with your vote.
Seriously, if in doubt—throw them out. Besides, any government official who is not forcefully calling for the resignations of the corrupt leaders of their own political party is, by definition, violating their oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
Whether Republican or Democrat, a treasonous corporate criminal is a treasonous corporate criminal, they serve the same master and nothing is going to change until we get the money out of politics.
*You get the money out of politics by publicly funding elections, banning all campaign contributions, and, in exchange for their broadcasting/operating licenses, requiring news organizations to give every candidate for public office an equal amount of free advertising space.
In the future, I may write a book titled: The Illusion of Journalism. But for now, I’m just going to say that the media is not going to help anyone blow the whistle on their partners in crime. In the past four years, I couldn’t find a single news organization that hadn’t sold us out.
All an honest journalist would have to do is read Judge Posner’s amicus brief to know that the courts are irretrievably corrupt. Reading my book will conclusively show that the courts are corrupt by design.
If you want a government that actually acts in your best interests, I urge you and everyone you know to read my book as soon as possible. You can get a digital copy of my book free of charge at the link below: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_vaMH1riLodzOfQn0kI7ow0RDrPM0NqE/view?usp=sharing
So who are YOU going to vote for?
Probably himself and his book.
Only a co-conspirator willfully ignores public corruption. I will vote for anyone who will forcefully fight to get the money of politics. They can start by pointing out the obvious corruption of our current public officials.
So Trump?
And who is that?